What's the point of 150 sl meta ?

[Polaric]

Why sl 150 ? Sl 175 - 200 is better for me.
When you decide to stay at 150 you still need to deal with overleveled players on arena.

[Scaredy Cat]

I think it was because sl150 was used in most tournaments back in the day.

[alekzanderlr]

The higher the level, the higher the chances of having to fight havelmages.
Really, 150 is pretty high for most builds already.

[Polaric]

Originally posted by alekzanderlr:

The higher the level, the higher the chances of having to fight havelmages.
Really, 150 is pretty high for most builds already.

But there's no sl based matchmaking. Thanks soul memory

[alekzanderlr]

Originally posted by SuBPolaricPL:

Originally posted by alekzanderlr:

The higher the level, the higher the chances of having to fight havelmages.
Really, 150 is pretty high for most builds already.

But there's no sl based matchmaking. Thanks soul memory

The arenas are SL matched.

[Polaric]

Originally posted by alekzanderlr:

Originally posted by SuBPolaricPL:

But there's no sl based matchmaking. Thanks soul memory

The arenas are SL matched.

No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIkTvDJB5oY

[weiss]

Originally posted by alekzanderlr:

Originally posted by SuBPolaricPL:

But there's no sl based matchmaking. Thanks soul memory

The arenas are SL matched.

[alekzanderlr]

Originally posted by SuBPolaricPL:

Originally posted by alekzanderlr:

The arenas are SL matched.

No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIkTvDJB5oY

The other guy might have been cheating.
Or it was divine punishment for using katanas.

In about three to four hundred matches, I don't think I've been matched with more than a dozen overlevelled characters.

[Polaric]

Originally posted by alekzanderlr:

Originally posted by SuBPolaricPL:

No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIkTvDJB5oY

The other guy might have been cheating.
Or it was divine punishment for using katanas.

In about three to four hundred matches, I don't think I've been matched with more than a dozen overlevelled characters.

I met once max level havel who three-shoted me with butcher knife. I was using gmb + armor was giving good elemental resistance and still got killed in few seconds. And of course he was cheating, because it's impossible to have max lvl char with 26 hours played

[weiss]

Originally posted by SuBPolaricPL:

Originally posted by alekzanderlr:

The other guy might have been cheating.
Or it was divine punishment for using katanas.

In about three to four hundred matches, I don't think I've been matched with more than a dozen overlevelled characters.

I met once max level havel who three-shoted me with butcher knife. I was using gmb + armor was giving good elemental resistance and still got killed in few seconds. And of course he was cheating, because it's impossible to have max lvl char with 26 hours played

How do you even know he was max level? The only way of knowing that is when you're cheating too

[Deadeye64]

to be honest, i dont really like the 150 meta either, it completely craps on hexers that want to use more than dark orb and dark weapon. but at the same time i kinda understand as mentioned before, havelmages are a scummy sight nobody wants to see

[Polaric]

Originally posted by weiss:

Originally posted by SuBPolaricPL:

I met once max level havel who three-shoted me with butcher knife. I was using gmb + armor was giving good elemental resistance and still got killed in few seconds. And of course he was cheating, because it's impossible to have max lvl char with 26 hours played

How do you even know he was max level? The only way of knowing that is when you're cheating too

I'm not cheating, because I don't need hacks too win + he told me his level and he told me, how he get it (ce op, pls kill).

[phazingworlds]

Matchmaking is not determined by Soul Memory within the Brotherhood of Blood duel arena. My recommendation is to level yourself as high as you see fit to achieve your build. Then head to the Iron Keep bridge. Plenty of action and large variety of builds. Don't worry yourself with the meta. Just enjoy the game.

[Scaredy Cat]

Originally posted by phazingworlds:

Matchmaking is not determined by Soul Memory within the Brotherhood of Blood duel arena. My recommendation is to level yourself as high as you see fit to achieve your build. Then head to the Iron Keep bridge. Plenty of action and large variety of builds. Don't worry yourself with the meta. Just enjoy the game.

Yeah, a lot of people take the pvp in this game way to seriously.
The main thing holding it back from being taken seriously in the fighting game genre is the horrendous netcode. Its fine for normal play, but not adequate in the slightest for any type of competitive play.

[phazingworlds]

The meta was established by a few select community members years ago at soul level 125 in Dark Souls 1. It was done to optimize matchmaking. But no offense to those players they do not speak for all players of the souls community. It's a game. Play it as you see fit.

Another reason to ignore this meta is because it constrains the player--especially in Dark Souls 2. Dark Souls 2 has wonderful variety, most notably the sorcery/miracles/hexes available to choose from. But to make use of them players must invest many points in attunement, faith, intelligence and so on.

Also, the game is hard. The new game plus cycles are noticeably different with new enemy placements and red phantoms (which I love, personally). Unless players want to get pummeled in the higher game cycles it is necessary to level up to cope with the more powerful enemies.

Finally, these so-called havelmonsters, as much as we find them to be agitating--they are few in numbers.

Good luck out there and just remember to enjoy the game. Dark Souls II is so diverse and fun. Make whatever you want! :)

[Аkiminator]

50 vig 20+ end 96-100 agl Third Dragon Ring Life Ring+3 flynn/royal soldier+2/Clear blustone ring+2 are strongly recommended to any 150 build. It's more than enough, if u need more levels u're probably bad at maths and don't know how to optimize ur build. Both arenas have sl matchmaking - it tries to find ppl nearby ur SL(+-5) and if there are noone - u'll fight absolutely random SL. Everyone who played the game a bit knows exactly about meta. Don't want to follow it - be ready to cry at steamforum or reddit about every heckkkkker who broke ur gear on arena, or do whatever SM based