2 handing vs 1 handing

[Zachshock]

I've tried both but it takes the same amoiunt of hits to kill an enemy and does same damage. So why would I need or want to 2 hand if blocking with a shield is better and does the same damage as 1 handing a weapon?

[Thumper]

some weapons are much more powerful when you 2 hand, and it generally changes the moveset.

[TrueArchery]

It does change the damage. Usually it gets an entirely different moveset aswell.

[myoptic]

There is a bonus to both poise damage and AR. I think it's 20%?

It's not always enough to reduce the number of hits it takes to kill something. So if it doesn't and you're not having trouble stunlocking, then don't use it. It takes a lot of extra stamina.

[Yal]

The changes in moveset is the main draw IMO.

Also, twohanding lets you use weapons you have too low STR for, I think it doubles your STR value. (Obviously you can only access the two-handed moveset though). That can be pretty useful early in the game while your stats are low.

[Kiosh]

Well, it's gives you a boost of 1.5 for STR only scale

If you're using a DEX scale weapon you woudn't see much difference in damage compared to let's say... a Ultra/Great Sword or a Axe

If you have little as 27 STR you can dual hand a weapon that requires 40 STR (27+13 = 40) so many great sword builds tends to walk with a shield up, when a enemy makes a move, dual hand it to use the sword until can get enought STR in build

Also, Like many people said, you can change the movesets of the weapon, so a Trust/Slash weapon shows it's true nature (you can have both Trust moves and Slash moves that affect enemy resists)

It's really have it's uses, you just gotta know if it's payoff or not :)

[nooblet]

Originally posted by Kiosh:

Well, it's gives you a boost of 1.5 for STR only scale

If you're using a DEX scale weapon you woudn't see much difference in damage compared to let's say... a Ultra/Great Sword or a Axe

If you have little as 27 STR you can dual hand a weapon that requires 40 STR (27+13 = 40) so many great sword builds tends to walk with a shield up, when a enemy makes a move, dual hand it to use the sword until can get enought STR in build

Also, Like many people said, you can change the movesets of the weapon, so a Trust/Slash weapon shows it's true nature (you can have both Trust moves and Slash moves that affect enemy resists)

It's really have it's uses, you just gotta know if it's payoff or not :)

It's 2x Str in DS2.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Kiosh:

Well, it's gives you a boost of 1.5 for STR only scale

If you're using a DEX scale weapon you woudn't see much difference in damage compared to let's say... a Ultra/Great Sword or a Axe

If you have little as 27 STR you can dual hand a weapon that requires 40 STR (27+13 = 40) so many great sword builds tends to walk with a shield up, when a enemy makes a move, dual hand it to use the sword until can get enought STR in build

Also, Like many people said, you can change the movesets of the weapon, so a Trust/Slash weapon shows it's true nature (you can have both Trust moves and Slash moves that affect enemy resists)

It's really have it's uses, you just gotta know if it's payoff or not :)

Youre completely wrong about 2h.
First off, all the scaling is based on the respective bns stat like strength atk bns etc. This stat increases with level investment. However it doesn't increase in case of Strength when you're 2h.
The only thing you get is a virtual 2x strength multiplier for requirements., so you can wield a 2h Lost Sinners at 12 Str. Its 2x, not 1.5x like nooblet already posted.

[76561198196194187]

the literal only time 2 handing a weapon serves any purpose is as follows:

to use a weapon with less than the required STR stat

or to do more poise damage.

[Scaredy Cat]

Originally posted by kakkadookie:

the literal only time 2 handing a weapon serves any purpose is as follows:

to use a weapon with less than the required STR stat

or to do more poise damage.

You forgot 3:

The moveset on a lot of weapons is better when 2h.

You do more damage when 2h.

Stylepoints.

[76561198196194187]

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

Originally posted by kakkadookie:

the literal only time 2 handing a weapon serves any purpose is as follows:

to use a weapon with less than the required STR stat

or to do more poise damage.

You forgot 3:

The moveset on a lot of weapons is better when 2h.

You do more damage when 2h.

Stylepoints.

eh, most weapons either get slower or become an overhead up-down slashing motion when you 2h them. honestly the 1h moveset is best on almost every weapon.

[Scaredy Cat]

Originally posted by kakkadookie:

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

You forgot 3:

The moveset on a lot of weapons is better when 2h.

You do more damage when 2h.

Stylepoints.

eh, most weapons either get slower or become an overhead up-down slashing motion when you 2h them. honestly the 1h moveset is best on almost every weapon.

Have you ever used anything larger than a longsword?

(Edit: or some of the longswords or curved swords that get an amazing moveset when 2h.)

[myoptic]

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

Originally posted by kakkadookie:

eh, most weapons either get slower or become an overhead up-down slashing motion when you 2h them. honestly the 1h moveset is best on almost every weapon.

Have you ever used anything larger than a longsword?

(Edit: or some of the longswords or curved swords that get an amazing moveset when 2h.)

The 2hr2 on the longsword is really good, for example. Definitely worth 2 handing for.

The greataxe 2h moveset is slightly less garbage than the 1h moveset.

Some ultras keep thier sweeping moveset, so two handing is often worth it. The zwei, for example, and the BK ugs.

[Scaredy Cat]

Originally posted by rawrk:

Originally posted by Scaredy Cat:

Have you ever used anything larger than a longsword?

(Edit: or some of the longswords or curved swords that get an amazing moveset when 2h.)

The 2hr2 on the longsword is really good, for example. Definitely worth 2 handing for.

The greataxe 2h moveset is slightly less garbage than the 1h moveset.

Some ultras keep thier sweeping moveset, so two handing is often worth it. The zwei, for example, and the BK ugs.

Loyce gs 2h moveset is really nice as well.

[estrogen demon]

Longsword 2h running attack is like the best ♥♥♥♥ in the game. Only thrusting swords 1h running attack beats it. Also some weapons are just better when 2h. Katanas for example. Not to mention that some 2h attacks are impossible to tank without hyper armor. One exception would be the spear 1h running attack which is also impossible to tank without ha.

[Инрико Пуччэ]

If the weapon doesn't scale with strength, there won't be a damage boost.