What "is" a giant?

[DuelShockX]

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I recently beat the game for the first time and now I have a question about giants. The ones that you fight in memories are said to be Giants but in DS1 the blacksmith that forges for you soil weapons is also a giant yet they look very differently. Is there more than one species of Giants? If so, then what are the monsters you walk on in the final cut scene as you walk towards the throne?

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DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

WARNING: DS1 Spoilers below read at your own risk!


I recently beat the game for the first time and now I have a question about giants. The ones that you fight in memories are said to be Giants but in DS1 the blacksmith that forges for you soil weapons is also a giant yet they look very differently. Is there more than one species of Giants? If so, then what are the monsters you walk on in the final cut scene as you walk towards the throne?

those ones in the final cutscene are "golems" are were made by vendrick werent they? you only see them in his castle after all.and i follow the idea that there are multiple different {HIVATKOZÁS TÖRÖLVE}"giants".in 3 Yhorm is a giant,and the stormruler(s) say they do extra damage against giants,but only on Yhorm,who is the only "Giant" like giant that we see in 2.

[Da Nut Crackah]

I just wanna know why Vendrick is so big

[DuelShockX]

But then what about the giants in ds1 since the cutscene in the beginning of the game says humans and giants fought together against the dragons and they look nothing like the giants of ds2.

[DuelShockX]

Da Nut Crackah eredeti hozzászólása:

I just wanna know why Vendrick is so big

Same reason Gwynevere is bigger than her dad Gwyn and yes that allusion of her is based off of her real size.

[Bonkers]

DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

But then what about the giants in ds1 since the cutscene in the beginning of the game says humans and giants fought together against the dragons and they look nothing like the giants of ds2.

DS1 Giants and DS2 Giants are different beings. DS1 Giants have faces.

[DuelShockX]

Onion! eredeti hozzászólása:

DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

But then what about the giants in ds1 since the cutscene in the beginning of the game says humans and giants fought together against the dragons and they look nothing like the giants of ds2.

DS1 Giants and DS2 Giants are different beings. DS1 Giants have faces.

Exactly which is why I'm wondering: Is there more than one giant's species or were there 2 different civilizations that never touched each other and each had their own definition of a giant? Ds1 giants talk while ds2 don't

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DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

Onion! eredeti hozzászólása:

DS1 Giants and DS2 Giants are different beings. DS1 Giants have faces.

Exactly which is why I'm wondering: Is there more than one giant's species or were there 2 different civilizations that never touched each other and each had their own definition of a giant? Ds1 giants talk while ds2 don't

In the memory where you fight the Giant Lord you'll see a dead giant on the ground and his face is exposed. He has eyes , teeth and everything. I personally hate the sphincter face design but what can you do? It's game anyway.

[DuelShockX]

I'm just trying to understand the lore and I'm confused as for witch really is a giant, DS1 version or DS2 version or are they cousins like dragons and drakes?

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DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm just trying to understand the lore and I'm confused as for witch really is a giant, DS1 version or DS2 version or are they cousins like dragons and drakes?

You'll never suss it out, people have so many theories.

[DuelShockX]

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DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm just trying to understand the lore and I'm confused as for witch really is a giant, DS1 version or DS2 version or are they cousins like dragons and drakes?

You'll never suss it out, people have so many theories.

So no official answer yet huh WHY MIYAZAKI WHYYYY

[Dexter]

DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm just trying to understand the lore and I'm confused as for witch really is a giant, DS1 version or DS2 version or are they cousins like dragons and drakes?

More or less. We can not be sure, we can only assume and make theories.
And as far as I can tell there are at least two versions or races(?) of giants. One with faces, like blacksmith in Anor Londo and second Giants that Vendrick pissed off.(the one with face in one of the memories in ds2 is kinda a easter egg, at early stages of creation of ds2 all of the giants had faces like this one unique)

Those giants in Dranleic Castle(and not only, 3rd DLC), I am pretty sure those are closer to machine then living beings.

P.S. Size of some bosses and enemies are enlarged. Size resembles power(I think it is from japanese culture, correct me if I'm wrong). And I remeber Miyazaki saying something like: Fighting bosses regular size, same as player, would not have same impact as fighting someone bigger then You.
It has to do with psychology of course. There were theories that "true" Gwyn size is/were as a simple man,player. I am not sure,tho, if Dark Souls 3 did not killed this theory.
In the end, it is game, and You need to take the post scriptum with a grain of salt.


Also, Dark Souls 2 lore is seriously ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and I would advice to not go to dig too deep with it as there is no deep after all.

[Da Nut Crackah]

DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

Da Nut Crackah eredeti hozzászólása:

I just wanna know why Vendrick is so big

Same reason Gwynevere is bigger than her dad Gwyn and yes that allusion of her is based off of her real size.

Okay, its the same reason.... but what is that reason?

Honestly, I think a lot of it is just supposed to be vague and obscure, I mean how many NPCs that look human say things indicating they are not actually human.

[DuelShockX]

Da Nut Crackah eredeti hozzászólása:

DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

Same reason Gwynevere is bigger than her dad Gwyn and yes that allusion of her is based off of her real size.

Okay, its the same reason.... but what is that reason?

Because their not really a human race and their size by genes can go from human to Gwynevere (possibly bigger) so I assume Vendrick is of the same race.

[Da Nut Crackah]

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Da Nut Crackah eredeti hozzászólása:

Okay, its the same reason.... but what is that reason?

Because their not really a human race and their size by genes can go from human to Gwynevere (possibly bigger) so I assume Vendrick is of the same race.

So does that mean that whatever race they are, they are a type of giant, and Gwyn and Gwyndolin for example are just midget giants?

[DuelShockX]

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DuelShockX eredeti hozzászólása:

Because their not really a human race and their size by genes can go from human to Gwynevere (possibly bigger) so I assume Vendrick is of the same race.

So does that mean that whatever race they are, they are a type of giant, and Gwyn and Gwyndolin for example are just midget giants?

The name of their race is never said in ds1 nor is there any refrences to their race in item descriptions but players generally agree that their not human for sure. Maybe they're a mixed race of human and giant descent?