Claymore good or bad!?

[KaZeshini]

I'm new to the souls series so i have no idea how infusion works I'm using a fth/str build with 40+ fth & 30 str & started using a lightning claymore +10 is it good or is there any good fth/str weapon i should get?

[Glioburd]

Infusing a weapon with an element will reduce the physical damages and reduce str/dex scalling, but will add element damage. A good choice when you are not a pure warrior with high stats on str/dex.

Exemple : a +10 physical damage claymore would do 290 physical damage with C/C scalling in str/dex.
A +10 light infused claymore has 203 pysicial damages, 203 lighting damages, with C scalling for str, D scalling for dex, and B scalling on faith for lighting damages.

So imo yes, I'd say it's good. Actually only you can judge if you find the claymore good or bad, judging by its moveset. Any light infused weapon will do the job. Just play with a weapon you like.

[Dr. Uncredible]

I personally find the claymore´s moveset to be utterly magnificient, and with your stats it should do good enough damage, slap a Sunlight Blade miracle on it and watch the world fry. ^^

[elitepredetor99]

Claymore is decent until ng. But not good enough past ng.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Glioburd:

Exemple : a +10 physical damage claymore would do 290 physical damage with C/C scalling in str/dex.
A +10 light infused claymore has 203 pysicial damages, 203 lighting damages, with C scalling for str, D scalling for dex, and B scalling on faith for lighting damages.

So imo yes, I'd say it's good.

This is a partially flawed argumentation. The letters don't mean anything. The C/C scaling is very unbalanced, Dex scaling is weak in this game.
How it actually scales: 50% of your STR-BNS, 25% of your DEX-BNS. It's really more a Strength-weapon in this game, just like every C/C. Quality would be like a C/A.
I don't know the exact values after an infusion, but I can guarantee that the letters will be extremely misleading. You get maybe 40-50 for both physical and elemental scaling when Str and Fth are softcapped.
You could aswell forget about the Strength over the requirement, the best scaling-gains are from 30-40. 20-30 is meh. Better get 50 Faith instead, for the Dragon Chime (and longer buff-duration of Sunlightblade which you should definitely use).

Anyway, it's still a pretty reliable weapon. I'd change it for the Defender's Greatsword later.

Originally posted by elitepredetor99:

But not good enough past ng.

I disagree. Care to elaborate?

[Glioburd]

^ Allright, I didn't know the letters don't mean anything in this game. Good to know.
I got a question for you then : as a cleric 40 dex / 50 fth, I started to play with the Loyce Greatsword[darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com] +5 physical damages (S scale dex). Would it be better if I infuse it with light ? Now I know dex scalling sux, I think the answer is probably yes.

[Dr. Uncredible]

Oh, they mean something, but they´re not 100% reliable, and the dex scaling vs strength scaling thing Archery describes is an important part of it. :)

[Glioburd]

^ Yeah I see. Thanks.

[KaZeshini]

Thanks for the advice....i was using Black Knight sword before which is good, but drains stamina too much.So i was searching for a sword with high damage & fast movements. The claymore seems good for now.Does the heid's Knight sword lvl with fth & it doesn't seem to be doing a lot of damage so should I upgrade it to +10?

[Griggs]

The claymore is a great weapon! In my experience, it's best with a 40 str 40 dex, quality build. It's pretty fast for a large weapon and has, in my opinion, a better moveset than any of the other greatsword-class weapons. Be wary, though, it is easily parryable in PVP because of its predictable combos.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Glioburd:

^ Allright, I didn't know the letters don't mean anything in this game. Good to know.
I got a question for you then : as a cleric 40 dex / 50 fth, I started to play with the Loyce Greatsword[darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com] +5 physical damages (S scale dex). Would it be better if I infuse it with light ? Now I know dex scalling sux, I think the answer is probably yes.

Well as said "nothing" is exaggerated.
The Loyce Greatsword however has a good scaling. 100% Dex-BNS, among the highest you can get. Plus some kind of neglegible Strength-scaling due to not-so-low requirements.
It has also pretty low base-damage, so you don't gain as much base AR by infusing it.

In a nutshell, it's one of the weapons you never want to infuse with anything.

Of course buffs are more effective with infused weapons, but then you're relying on them a lot.

[Glioburd]

Allright, thanks !

[myoptic]

I don't see it here, so let me point out how pathetic elemental scaling is on infused regular titanite weapons. You get usually 30% of your relevent elemental BNS. So at lowest that's
0.3*50=15. At fth=50, you get 0.3*155~=45. So you pick up 30 AR for going from base to 50 fth. Ita not nothing, but it's hardly a good investment if its melee you're after.

Generally, elemental AR is a liability and it's better to stick to pure physical, even if it means having a bit less total AR (it almost always does).

But infusions and buffs allow casters to get really good AR even at low str and dex, at the expense of really relying on elemental. If you don't have low str and dex, infusion is a questionable investment, even if you have high int or fth

[King Robert Baratheon]

When I did my str/fth build I used a lightning demon's great hammer and it absolutely destroyed almost everything I fought. I think throne defenders sword is good for a str/faith build too (or maybe it was the watchers sword, i forget) but of course thats very late-game. The claymore is great because its technically a greatsword iirc but it has a very fast moveset. I think you're fine but late game you can definitely do better.