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it ain't me Feb 19, 2017 @ 12:40am
poise ideal for pvp?
So that you don't get stun locked by rapier spammers. Is it 80? 90?
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juicy Feb 19, 2017 @ 1:02am 
This isn't dark souls 3 so go all out.
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it ain't me Feb 19, 2017 @ 1:20am 
Originally posted by Ancient Dragon > Ancient wyvern:
This isn't dark souls 3 so go all out.

? I'm asking for the ideal poise level to min max on equipment load
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CloudSeeker Feb 19, 2017 @ 4:15am 
The ideal is to not get hit.
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TrueArchery Feb 19, 2017 @ 4:17am 
Simply google for the reddit spreadsheet and read the breakpoints...
Stunlocks don't exist anyways (except for the 2-hit-combo of most weapons in case your Poise gets broken).
Last edited by TrueArchery; Feb 19, 2017 @ 4:18am
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myoptic Feb 19, 2017 @ 4:34am 
On a ROB/Flynn build, you can still get around 60-65 if you don't mind being above 60% load.

If you aren't doing RoB/Flynn, then you've got to make the sacrifice of 50 AR worth it and get at least 100 poise. You can actualy get 130 without too much trouble. Consider yourself a poise monster.
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it ain't me Feb 19, 2017 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by TrueArchery:
Simply google for the reddit spreadsheet and read the breakpoints...
Stunlocks don't exist anyways (except for the 2-hit-combo of most weapons in case your Poise gets broken).

Tried to look for them but couldn't find. Why do you think I'm asking in the forums



Originally posted by rawrk:
On a ROB/Flynn build, you can still get around 60-65 if you don't mind being above 60% load.

If you aren't doing RoB/Flynn, then you've got to make the sacrifice of 50 AR worth it and get at least 100 poise. You can actualy get 130 without too much trouble. Consider yourself a poise monster.

so at least 100 right? thanks
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myoptic Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Greatest Ally:
Originally posted by TrueArchery:
Simply google for the reddit spreadsheet and read the breakpoints...
Stunlocks don't exist anyways (except for the 2-hit-combo of most weapons in case your Poise gets broken).

Tried to look for them but couldn't find. Why do you think I'm asking in the forums



Originally posted by rawrk:
On a ROB/Flynn build, you can still get around 60-65 if you don't mind being above 60% load.

If you aren't doing RoB/Flynn, then you've got to make the sacrifice of 50 AR worth it and get at least 100 poise. You can actualy get 130 without too much trouble. Consider yourself a poise monster.

so at least 100 right? thanks

check for the break points here [darksouls2.wikidot.com] on wikidot.

(wikidot is almost always the right choice for in depth, accurate information)
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it ain't me Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by rawrk:
Originally posted by Greatest Ally:

Tried to look for them but couldn't find. Why do you think I'm asking in the forums





so at least 100 right? thanks

check for the break points here [darksouls2.wikidot.com] on wikidot.

(wikidot is almost always the right choice for in depth, accurate information)

Gotcha. Looks like 95 poise is ideal for withstanding most r1 attacks
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elitepredetor99 Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:24am 
No poise is terrible for PvP, it is not worth it at all, even at full Havel's you can get 1 hit stunlocked by spears and most weapons. And 2-3 hit stunlocked by weapons like rapiers and katanas.
Last edited by elitepredetor99; Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:25am
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Scaredy Cat Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by elitepredetor99:
No poise is terrible for PvP, it is not worth it at all, even at full Havel's you can get 1 hit stunlocked by spears and most weapons. And 2-3 hit stunlocked by weapons like rapiers and katanas.

Only if you arent in an attack animation.
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it ain't me Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:29am 
Originally posted by elitepredetor99:
No poise is terrible for PvP, it is not worth it at all, even at full Havel's you can get 1 hit stunlocked by spears and most weapons. And 2-3 hit stunlocked by weapons like rapiers and katanas.

Ah really? Then is it better to have the lightest armor possible for rolls + endurance regen the best?
Last edited by it ain't me; Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:29am
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TrueArchery Feb 19, 2017 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Greatest Ally:
Originally posted by elitepredetor99:
No poise is terrible for PvP, it is not worth it at all, even at full Havel's you can get 1 hit stunlocked by spears and most weapons. And 2-3 hit stunlocked by weapons like rapiers and katanas.

Ah really? Then is it better to have the lightest armor possible for rolls + endurance regen the best?
No, he just has no clue what he's talking about. Poise is good. Very good. But it isn't essential for winning, plus some of the best elemental armor is light and poiseless anyway.
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King Robert Baratheon Feb 19, 2017 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by elitepredetor99:
No poise is terrible for PvP, it is not worth it at all, even at full Havel's you can get 1 hit stunlocked by spears and most weapons. And 2-3 hit stunlocked by weapons like rapiers and katanas.

Don't listen to this idiot. Poise is much stronger than this in dark souls 2. A lot of people are coming from dark souls 3 to DaS2 with this idea that poise is nonexistent in das2 because it wasnt in dark souls 3. I need to make a video of me face tanking those ruin sentinels in drangleic castle. That's a good test for how your end game poise is (for a tank build).
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King Robert Baratheon Feb 19, 2017 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by TrueArchery:
Originally posted by Greatest Ally:

Ah really? Then is it better to have the lightest armor possible for rolls + endurance regen the best?
No, he just has no clue what he's talking about. Poise is good. Very good. But it isn't essential for winning, plus some of the best elemental armor is light and poiseless anyway.

This is true but a few months back I did a tank build but more of a well rounded tank build (high hp, endurance, dex and strength) using the elite knight set and the despite being a medium armor set the elite knight set fully upgraded gives you a lot of poise. It's such a good set (and of course it just looks good). The only minor pet peeve I have with it and heavier armor sets is that in dark souls 2 it makes this annoying clanky sound all the time while you walk around. It gets kind of grating.
Last edited by King Robert Baratheon; Feb 19, 2017 @ 10:44am
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Scaredy Cat Feb 19, 2017 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Velka:
Originally posted by TrueArchery:
No, he just has no clue what he's talking about. Poise is good. Very good. But it isn't essential for winning, plus some of the best elemental armor is light and poiseless anyway.

This is true but a few months back I did a tank build but more of a well rounded tank build (high hp, endurance, dex and strength) using the elite knight set and the despite being a medium armor set the elite knight set fully upgraded gives you a lot of poise. It's such a good set (and of course it just looks good). The only minor pet peeve I have with it and heavier armor sets is that in dark souls 2 it makes this annoying clanky sound all the time while you walk around. It gets kind of grating.

I actually kinda like the sound. It gives you the idea youre actually moving around in heavy metal armour.
Last edited by Scaredy Cat; Feb 19, 2017 @ 10:47am
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