(CO-OP ISSUE) My friend's sign is not showing up.

[BARBUTA]

Hey,

There may be a million threads with this problem going on but I'd like to see if anyone has found any alternatives or a possible solution with depth to it.

Yes, if you look at the amount of hours put into Dark Souls 2, you will know that I have tried every single way to summon him. I have the Name engraved ring, we have tried multiple gods, we have the same Soul Memory (Yes, exactly in the same thousand), we are on new characters and NONE of us are soft banned. We have also emailed Namco Bandai to make sure the issue had nothing to do with us, and it does not.

We are also able to see identical summon signs (as in we're able to see other players signs down, different players at times and so on). Cross-region play is on, we tried both small and normal soapstones. The boss has not been killed in my world and I have tried multiple areas, from Heide to Cardinal Tower, there's no reason for his sign not to show up.
When we put our signs down with no Name-engraved ring on, we're able to be summoned by random players and we are able to see random players summon sign.

Download location is irrelevant as the game does not use Steam's download settings to connect to other nodes. We have tried different Souls games and Dark Souls 1 works perfectly fine even though it uses a old method of connection (P2P). Dark Souls 3 also works with both password on and off.

TLDR: Every sure way to summon in DS2 has been tried, other Souls games work for the both of us and we are not soft-banned. He can see my sign and SUMMON me but I can't see his. I can summon everyone else, we can see identical signs and he's able to summon others as well. We got invaded so many times by different players as well, we're completely open.

Is there anything we can do about this? Possibly something Network related and not game related?

[MobiusPizza]

about network I really don't know. The only things about in game that you didn't talk about and are important are:
You can't summon if your sign is down, so don't place it both at the same time.
You can't summon / be summoned if you're in the Champions Covenant.
And, You can't summon if you have an effigy effect active.

You may tried that already but It's better to be said. I can't help you more

[BARBUTA]

Already have tried those. We're not in the convenant of champions, I do not have my sign placed down and I do not have an effigy active.

[patr1xcore]

This really sucks... I can't connect with my friend as well. I have no idea what's wrong.

[CountryFolk]

Originally posted by Dante:

Hey,

There may be a million threads with this problem going on but I'd like to see if anyone has found any alternatives or a possible solution with depth to it.

Yes, if you look at the amount of hours put into Dark Souls 2, you will know that I have tried every single way to summon him. I have the Name engraved ring, we have tried multiple gods, we have the same Soul Memory (Yes, exactly in the same thousand), we are on new characters and NONE of us are soft banned. We have also emailed Namco Bandai to make sure the issue had nothing to do with us, and it does not.

We are also able to see identical summon signs (as in we're able to see other players signs down, different players at times and so on). Cross-region play is on, we tried both small and normal soapstones. The boss has not been killed in my world and I have tried multiple areas, from Heide to Cardinal Tower, there's no reason for his sign not to show up.
When we put our signs down with no Name-engraved ring on, we're able to be summoned by random players and we are able to see random players summon sign.

Download location is irrelevant as the game does not use Steam's download settings to connect to other nodes. We have tried different Souls games and Dark Souls 1 works perfectly fine even though it uses a old method of connection (P2P). Dark Souls 3 also works with both password on and off.

TLDR: Every sure way to summon in DS2 has been tried, other Souls games work for the both of us and we are not soft-banned. He can see my sign and SUMMON me but I can't see his. I can summon everyone else, we can see identical signs and he's able to summon others as well. We got invaded so many times by different players as well, we're completely open.

Is there anything we can do about this? Possibly something Network related and not game related?

the only thing is that maby one of you got softban , one of you used before hacks ? or some program to the game ?

[Medusahead]

About effigies, I've noticed the game randomly applies an effigy effect to you without burning one, I don't know the cause. This could possibly be the reason but you've said it's not effigies. I know it's highly unlikely but you may want to make sure both of you don't have the effect on you, I think it happens if you get killed a bunch and you said you got invaded quite a few times. I've done coop runs on DSII the old one and it worked fine as long as we both had cross play on.

[Wodjanoi]

The connection between 2 people is not a 100% and at any time working thing in DS2 though, but it's always just a temporary problem then - nothing to worry about. You have to wait and try it later. Sometimes it's enough to go back into main menu and connect with servers again.

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Medusahead:

About effigies, I've noticed the game randomly applies an effigy effect to you without burning one, I don't know the cause. This could possibly be the reason but you've said it's not effigies. I know it's highly unlikely but you may want to make sure both of you don't have the effect on you, I think it happens if you get killed a bunch and you said you got invaded quite a few times. I've done coop runs on DSII the old one and it worked fine as long as we both had cross play on.

Killing a boss is the reason for the effigy effect.

However the regionlock is definitely not the reason for your connectivity, it is actually a pretty useless feature. In case of the PC version at least.

[Wodjanoi]

When you both set everything correctly, but you can't see the right sign it's just a temporary problem - nothing to worry about.

[ETHANBRADBERRY]

2 VERY important things to consider:

#1: FromSoftware hired incompetent I.T specialists to build their server infrastructure. Therefore, even though one has met all requirements for multiplayer it is almost certain that connection with other players is impossible or very unlikely.

#2: FromSoftware decided to use this "Soul Memory" matchmaking system (which of course is idiotic) and NOT INCLUDE A PASSWORD BASED SUMMONING SYSTEM. The incompetence is blatant.

In summary: Despite meeting ALL requirements to match with a friend, one will STILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THAT FRIEND (even while using the Name-engraved Ring, etc.) because From Software decided to build a blatantly incompetent server infrastructure. ON TOP OF THE BLATANT technological faults of From Software, they couldn't think of a password-based matchmaking system to integrate with the Soul Memory system (or, MAYBE JUST DON'T USE A SOUL MEMORY SYSTEM WHICH IS PROVABLY STUPID and DOES NOT serve the purpose From Software intended it to). So good luck connecting with friends because other than random connections (after all- if there are thousands of people online it is likely a successful connection COULD occur once in a blue moon) you won't see anyone.

[The Mute's Soliloquy]

When i try to get summoned by my friend, i put down my sign in unusual place so i am sure no other person take my sign or placing the sign over my sign. I also use put the sign up and down every 1 or 2 minute if he said he not seeing my sign. That what i usually does. Idk that work or not

[Bandy]

My understanding is that you do not want to put down your sign, then pick it up and put it down again,... etc. just leave it be as it may take some time. If you get frustrated, as someone said above, restart the game.

[The Mute's Soliloquy]

Originally posted by Bandy:

My understanding is that you do not want to put down your sign, then pick it up and put it down again,... etc. just leave it be as it may take some time. If you get frustrated, as someone said above, restart the game.

If you mean my post, thats work for me. When i put down my sign near cardinal tower bonfire, my friend cant find my sign. So i move to the cart room up floor and put my sign there and he found it. Other time i put my sign and my friend cant found it after a couple minute so i put my sign up, use bone of order, and put my sign down again. Thats work well, for me. But idk it will help op problems or not.

[Ti]

Originally posted by Dante:

Hey,

There may be a million threads with this problem going on but I'd like to see if anyone has found any alternatives or a possible solution with depth to it.

Yes, if you look at the amount of hours put into Dark Souls 2, you will know that I have tried every single way to summon him. I have the Name engraved ring, we have tried multiple gods, we have the same Soul Memory (Yes, exactly in the same thousand), we are on new characters and NONE of us are soft banned. We have also emailed Namco Bandai to make sure the issue had nothing to do with us, and it does not.

We are also able to see identical summon signs (as in we're able to see other players signs down, different players at times and so on). Cross-region play is on, we tried both small and normal soapstones. The boss has not been killed in my world and I have tried multiple areas, from Heide to Cardinal Tower, there's no reason for his sign not to show up.
When we put our signs down with no Name-engraved ring on, we're able to be summoned by random players and we are able to see random players summon sign.

Download location is irrelevant as the game does not use Steam's download settings to connect to other nodes. We have tried different Souls games and Dark Souls 1 works perfectly fine even though it uses a old method of connection (P2P). Dark Souls 3 also works with both password on and off.

TLDR: Every sure way to summon in DS2 has been tried, other Souls games work for the both of us and we are not soft-banned. He can see my sign and SUMMON me but I can't see his. I can summon everyone else, we can see identical signs and he's able to summon others as well. We got invaded so many times by different players as well, we're completely open.

Is there anything we can do about this? Possibly something Network related and not game related?

So... What if i tell you that this is happening to me and one friend of mine right now?
one day i was playing DS2 SOTFS with 2 friends, my friend and i beat the Lost Sinner for second time using Bonfire Ascetic, and then we just cant see each other summon sign (excact same problem than yours) but i still can summon my other friend (who has less soul memory than the friend i cant summon) and vice versa.
we tried reinstall the game but it didnt work

[Fran]

¿How long do you wait after putting your sign on the map? Last week I did some PvP with a player, he added me to his friend list and then we tried phantom summoning. We tried with normal and small white soapstone and did not work, kind of impatiently deleted it and put it again , but nothing seemed to work. After spending some minutes in chat, he got to see my sign and could successfully co-op. I know you've tried everything, but maybe some more minutes could do the trick.

[Ti]

Originally posted by Frrrrrr:

¿How long do you wait after putting your sign on the map? Last week I did some PvP with a player, he added me to his friend list and then we tried phantom summoning. We tried with normal and small white soapstone and did not work, kind of impatiently deleted it and put it again , but nothing seemed to work. After spending some minutes in chat, he got to see my sign and could successfully co-op. I know you've tried everything, but maybe some more minutes could do the trick.

we waited for a few minutes last night, then deleted it and put it somewhere else... didnt work.
last week we tried and wait for at least 10 minutes, same results :c
i think this may be a bug or something but idk, we both reinstalled the game but didnt work