Illusory rings?!?!

[DuelShockX]

Ok so you know how theres those two legendary rings from completing the game without dying and without resting at bonefires? Well do they count as game achievements like collecting all miracles achievement? Just wondering since I'm a completionist and I'll HATE IT IF I HAVE TO DO IT.

[Javhz]

No, they don't count as an steam achievement.

[DuelShockX]

Originally posted by muggs:

if you're a completionist then you should get both rings

I was just worried that they're achievements cause for God's sake there are sorceries that can do this in ds1 while here they make it look more valuable (the effect of the rings) than what it's like to do so in ds1.

[myoptic]

If you want to get the achievements, it's not so bad. Easiest way is to roll into ng++.

If you are a *completionist,* strap in cause you'll be here a while:

1000 successful invasions will get you the ring of thorns +2

1000 successful blue invasions will get you the bellowing dragoncrest +2

[DuelShockX]

Meh I'm not a sorcerer kind of person and I've tried ring of thorns +1 and it rarely hits my opponents so no to that too.

[myoptic]

Originally posted by DuelShockX:

Meh I'm not a sorcerer kind of person and I've tried ring of thorns +1 and it rarely hits my opponents so no to that too.

but they exist so you have to get them! jk don't really

the ring of thorns is a pvp thing. The +2 version sends out throns 70% of the time, so it can easily break up combo or make trades way more favorable for you. its a bit OP.

the two invisibility rings are the same - they exist, but they are pvp oriented (obviously), and even then any experiences player won't care too much if your weapon is invisible. He can see what it is as soon as you attack with it.

[DuelShockX]

Plus from software made invisible weapons look much cooler to have than what they are in ds1. There's a sorcery in ds1 that let's you make your weapon invisible and is very easy to obtain. Don't know why they made such a big deal out of it in this game.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Originally posted by DuelShockX:

Plus from software made invisible weapons look much cooler to have than what they are in ds1. There's a sorcery in ds1 that let's you make your weapon invisible and is very easy to obtain. Don't know why they made such a big deal out of it in this game.

That sorcery exists in this game, too - rank 2 reward for the Bell Keeper covenant.

My guess is that it exists to make your weapons *permanently* invisible until the rings are removed. That way, you can switch weapons without your weapon suddenly becoming visible again.

[Gorre]

Originally posted by rawrk:

Originally posted by DuelShockX:

Meh I'm not a sorcerer kind of person and I've tried ring of thorns +1 and it rarely hits my opponents so no to that too.

but they exist so you have to get them! jk don't really

the ring of thorns is a pvp thing. The +2 version sends out throns 70% of the time, so it can easily break up combo or make trades way more favorable for you. its a bit OP.

the two invisibility rings are the same - they exist, but they are pvp oriented (obviously), and even then any experiences player won't care too much if your weapon is invisible. He can see what it is as soon as you attack with it.

lol how do you have that many hours and call ring of thorns +2 op? It's absolutely terrible buddy

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Gorre ☠:

Originally posted by rawrk:

but they exist so you have to get them! jk don't really

the ring of thorns is a pvp thing. The +2 version sends out throns 70% of the time, so it can easily break up combo or make trades way more favorable for you. its a bit OP.

the two invisibility rings are the same - they exist, but they are pvp oriented (obviously), and even then any experiences player won't care too much if your weapon is invisible. He can see what it is as soon as you attack with it.

lol how do you have that many hours and call ring of thorns +2 op? It's absolutely terrible buddy

How do you have that many hours but keep saying "spears are so easy to parry" and such?

[Gorre]

because i actually have some knowledge unlike you and a lot of other people who play this game once a year, and yes spears are easy to parry, all you need to do is backstep with buckler or simply even spam a fast shield parry will do

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Gorre ☠:

because i actually have some knowledge unlike you and a lot of other people who play this game once a year, and yes spears are easy to parry, all you need to do is backstep with buckler or simply even spam a fast shield parry will do

You assume that people spam R1 without connecting a hit. Experienced players won't do that.
Parry-spam will just get you backstabbed.

[Gorre]

i wasn't talking about above average players op in that thread got owned by an average spear user which is easy as fk to parry r1 spam, and fast shield spam gets parries on a lot of wepaons

[TrueArchery]

Originally posted by Gorre ☠:

i wasn't talking about above average players op in that thread got owned by an average spear user which is easy as fk to parry r1 spam, and fast shield spam gets parries on a lot of wepaons

Well see the average players simply aren't good. Anything works against them. You could fight the average spear user with even an ultra and win.

[hachimagi]

Originally posted by Gorre ☠:

i wasn't talking about above average players op in that thread got owned by an average spear user which is easy as fk to parry r1 spam, and fast shield spam gets parries on a lot of wepaons

In that case, it doesnt matter if he is using a spear, he would get parried because he is bad, not because of the spear.

[Gorre]

you can beat spears easily even against "experienced" because without offhand weapon they're very predictable, so spears alone are below reapers in difficulty without offhand weapon