Giant ant warriors just a tad OP?

[azraehl]

What frackin level do you have to be to kill these guys? i ran into a nest and I can kill MAYBE one before I am completely owned. They do moderate damage every other time they attack and at level 9 I can only hit them every 4-5 attacks for a few damage? Seems a bit out of wack for the level dungeon I am in (the puppy cave) and the quest I am on (on of the first you get). If I run up to the next level to heal they just multiply.

[oldrocker99]

You're playing a roguelike, and you complain about unfairness?

[ignaser]

Try scroll "Vermin control" and fire/frozen bolt + coward tactic.

[The Real Nunu]

Bolt spells or wands can help a lot if you have trouble with them. If you are a squishy melee character then try to avoid them if they are too strong and lock them in.

[vysionier]

I’ve found that avoiding them is the best policy. You are bound to find a weapon that can get past their 10 pv in the bottom of pc. Also there’s a few more options for a weak melee character. You can choose a weapon affinity for +2 damage, most weapons do 1-8 damage so 3-10 gets you close. Adding some strength can get you a few more over that point, which it’s pretty easy to get 18 str if you have the potential. Also, consider berserk tactics then go to coward while you use first aid. Another option is to use missle weapon combat. Ranged combat trains faster with a higher damage increment than melee. Even Thrown rocks will do like +5 dmg even only trained to 3. So train thrown rocks until 6 and you’ll beat almost anything early on with unlimited ammo.

[jeremiahcp]

This is a learn to play issue. Stop trying to club your way pass everything and try using some strategy.

[Randomnerd]

Good to know I am not the only one who just got yeeted by one.

[Rockstar McKickass]

Originally posted by jeremiahcp:

This is a learn to play issue. Stop trying to club your way pass everything and try using some strategy.

Obviously they are learning to play, and having an issue. That is why they made the post. I am having a similar issue so I actually appreciate it, and the people who actually contributed and didn't just show up to be the forum equivalent of a youtube influencer.

Oh man, I really hope you have found some purpose or at least a small amount of relevance in life since you posted that gem.

[Sputnik]

Sure they might be OP, but them you run the gauntlet, find the stairs and probably get committed to diving deeper.

When you're a small soft snack sometimes you gotta just run like a wimp.

[mjkittredge]

If you can't handle a few ants you're going to have an even worse time in the cavernous rooms where monsters are swarming you from all sides.

There's no shame in abandoning a tough dungeon, exploring some other places & gaining some levels & gear, then coming back later when you're stronger.

[Sputnik]

I hate bees more

[mjkittredge]

Originally posted by Sputnik:

I hate bees more

Thing with bees is by the time you finally encounter them they're usually not too bad. Should have had a chance to get poison resistance and decent DV/PV and ranged attacks. Earliest I've ever seen bees is like level 6 or 7 of the Unremarkable Dungeon. Most games I don't see them until a dozen or so floors down into the CoC.

[Sputnik]

No, I'm just racist against bees

Actually the theory is you kick their hive for a better chance for a Gelee Royal drop (this can hurt you). But my avatar is a vanity stricken grey elf who won't pass up any chance for a skin treatment.

[Olliff]

If you are playing high strength/toughness or a character with great starting equipment like a Drakeling or Dwarf Paladin, I usually don't notice this challenge. You can also play as a ranged caster. For a lot of the normal or weaker combinations, the puppy cave, the only guaranteed source of early ants is usually best avoided or just run away from the ants if you are speedy enough.

If you are just starting out, I would strongly suggest picking one of the beginner friendly classes. Paladin, Wizard, Elementalist, Priest, Barbarian, Duelist, etc. Paladin and Wizard were my first two wins so I may be a bit biased.