Bought it for the Viking Raiders

[Reaver]

I have always asked for a Viking Total War with the whole world known to the Vikings rather than Medieval Total War's Viking expansion pak which was just northern europe. I imagine this add-on pack for Attila is all that will ever happen though. Too bad.

Eastern cultural bias and the fact that the Viking history was written by their enemies blocks an accurate view of their culture and how it functioned to allow them to control large areas in distant locations while not being united under one king. They had a system of honor and gaining honor that allied them. They had the duel of honor at an appointed time and place, but no prisons. So an interesting and different culture that worked as well as eastern Roman/Greek culture, but forgotten. Seems like a springboard for a Total War game.

Oh yes, the Vikings were dual-wielding if they had no shield and a free hand. New animations I guess?

[Shadow of the SPQR]

Except the vikings weren't known in the Attila time period for much.

[Lionhearth92]

Well, Vikings were a considerable threat/culture approximately between 700 and 1000. It is a timeframe not yet visited by TW games. Since it was an era with many conflicts and opposing forces (at least in europe and the middle east i don't know about the rest) we may as well see a game set in that time. Total War Dark Ages maybe

[Lord General Nacho]

Originally posted by Lionhearth92:

Well, Vikings were a considerable threat/culture approximately between 700 and 1000. It is a timeframe not yet visited by TW games. Since it was an era with many conflicts and opposing forces (at least in europe and the middle east i don't know about the rest) we may as well see a game set in that time. Total War Dark Ages maybe

That actually seems more appropriate. Instead of trying to squeeze that timeframe into the aft end of Attila or early game Medieval 3, just set aside the Dark Ages for its own game.

[Lionhearth92]

The timeframe has HUGE potential. Besides the obvious european part with the Frank Empire , you have the early kingdoms of England warring each other. OP's Viking raids. Hungarian settling in the Carpathian basin and their raids to the european mainland. Rise of the Islam in the middle east. Arabian conquest of Iberia and of course many more historical events. If you just check Wikipedia and no other sources you could fill multiple TW campaigns.

[Lord General Nacho]

Originally posted by Lionhearth92:

The timeframe has HUGE potential. Besides the obvious european part with the Frank Empire , you have the early kingdoms of England warring each other. OP's Viking raids. Hungarian settling in the Carpathian basin and their raids to the european mainland. Rise of the Islam in the middle east. Arabian conquest of Iberia and of course many more historical events. If you just check Wikipedia and no other sources you could fill multiple TW campaigns.

Basically, the prequel to Medieval 3 lol

[Armatus]

Bascially Medieval 3, but why not just dump the generic title?

[Lionhearth92]

Originally posted by Armatus:

Bascially Medieval 3, but why not just dump the generic title?

Not exactly because as i remember Medieval TW deals with a timeframe from 1000-1500 so basically you had nothing in it from before that time. Altough yes you are right in a way, since it is of course the middle ages. Just the early periods.

[Gekko]

Honestly I am the same I like how the Gaetis will not suffer a minus to their bonus but moral boost in cold climates, hopefully other "map" bonuses will be added to the other Nordics so they can be the cold "plague" seeping down into Europe.

Brace yourselves Winter is Coming!

[Flavius Aetius Semper Felix]

LOL. There were NO Vikings in the DLC. Read the description carefully, it's called the "Vikings FOREFATHERS pack" it also says "With the Viking Forefathers at their command, players can marshal the forces of The GEATS, The JUTES and The DANES"

[Gekko]

Originally posted by Flavius Aetius Semper Felix:

LOL. There were NO Vikings in the DLC. Read the description carefully, it's called the "Vikings FOREFATHERS pack" it also says "With the Viking Forefathers at their command, players can marshal the forces of The GEATS, The JUTES and The DANES"

Troll post, I think you know what we mean. Vikings where Nordic/Scandinavian which is Geats, Jutes and Danes included.

[dfromdub]

In my opinion CA just threw the "Viking" name in for pure marketing. Had it been "Northern tribes" or something similar it would not have being as effective in catching the attention of half the people.
I tend to agree with people saying "Vikings" have nothing to do with this timeframe, but then once again they specified "forefathers" -_-'. It's a semantic problem I guess, I don't really want to argue about it.
Medieval TW 1: Viking invasion espansion (good old times) was about the "real-deal" Vikings, and it was a very nice campaign.

And I pre-purchased the game on gmg, don't get me wrong. I want to play it including those scandinavian factions, I am not bit**ing about it, CA do what they want etc. but I find these maketing baits system a bit cheap (agains just my opinions)

If the trend goes on we might even get a "Spartans grand-grandchildren DLC faction". "Start as a minute vassal province of the ERE and restore Spartan glory"...
I am sure it would sell quite well...

[Destroyer Of Worlds]

Originally posted by dfromdub:

In my opinion CA just threw the "Viking" name in for pure marketing. Had it been "Northern tribes" or something similar it would not have being as effective in catching the attention of half the people.
I tend to agree with people saying "Vikings" have nothing to do with this timeframe, but then once again they specified "forefathers" -_-'. It's a semantic problem I guess, I don't really want to argue about it.
Medieval TW 1: Viking invasion espansion (good old times) was about the "real-deal" Vikings, and it was a very nice campaign.

And I pre-purchased the game on gmg, don't get me wrong. I want to play it including those scandinavian factions, I am not bit**ing about it, CA do what they want etc. but I find these maketing baits system a bit cheap (agains just my opinions)

If the trend goes on we might even get a "Spartans grand-grandchildren DLC faction". "Start as a minute vassal province of the ERE and restore Spartan glory"...
I am sure it would sell quite well...

Yeah i agree about the marketing ploys are annoying. i personally really hate how they take a cent off everything so people think its cheaper than it actually is.

[Armatus]

Originally posted by Lionhearth92:

Originally posted by Armatus:

Bascially Medieval 3, but why not just dump the generic title?

Not exactly because as i remember Medieval TW deals with a timeframe from 1000-1500 so basically you had nothing in it from before that time. Altough yes you are right in a way, since it is of course the middle ages. Just the early periods.

Late middle, high middle ages and rennaissance is what you've got there. It's early medieval and what connects us to late antiquity. The fall of the WRE and the succeeding in lineage, knowledge, and culture, the era of the ERE as the so-called "barbarians" begin migration and mature.

[Lionhearth92]

Originally posted by Armatus:

Originally posted by Lionhearth92:

Not exactly because as i remember Medieval TW deals with a timeframe from 1000-1500 so basically you had nothing in it from before that time. Altough yes you are right in a way, since it is of course the middle ages. Just the early periods.

Late middle, high middle ages and rennaissance is what you've got there. It's early medieval and what connects us to late antiquity. The fall of the WRE and the succeeding in lineage, knowledge, and culture, the era of the ERE as the so-called "barbarians" begin migration and mature.

I see how it could have been misunderstood. I was talking about how Medieval TW was not the early middle ages but later periods and so there is a yet unvisited time preiod still waiting for us to be played.

[Berserk Breton]

Really at this point, it's the Saxons who are the sea raiders, a Viking culture of sea raiding emerging in this period would probably just be taken for Saxons by anybody else.

I still wanted the factions in the DLC though as they are parts of the English and Norwegian backstories, and I am really looking forward to seeing how they are realised.