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Making a faction a client state doesn't force your allies to make peace with the new client state.
seems like it is broken the way it is. The way it has been.
Maybe I should just go to war with everyone????? That's all this game allows you to do it seems.
Well, That's what I did. Turned on most of my dearest allies, just to get the Huns to like me (Since they were enemies with them). Now, most of my former friends are dead except for Illriya who's hating on me hard for their demises and may soon bring their end as well. *Crazy laugh* HOOOAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAH!!!!
Shogun 2 vassalge doesn't work that way.
The faction can be at war with multiple clans, and if you subjugate them (i.e. make them vassal), the state of war between them disappears. If another clan subsequently attacks your vassal, you get a pop-up forcing you to choose to either join the war in your vassal's defence, or to leave them to their fate, even if the clan attacking your vassal is presently allied to you.
If the vassal starts the war, you can refuse to join in and you get the situation like the OP was describing, where you can move into the vassal's land, but can't reinforce in the war because the attacking clan might be your ally.
its very transparent too, watch what other faction think of you and why, then understand that doing what YOU want will probably lead to problems. Also subjugating barbarians will anger other barbarians most often etc..so its hard to keep them faithful...you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ their culture/religion. You known cultural prejudice...which will anger all faction with same culture etc...
I'm playing the Huns and subjugated some barbs, have defensive alliances with MY cultural peers (ie.:maygar,roxolanians, etc...) .
They are very friendly with me now, yes even my subj barbs, because I'm fighting the romans. No one like romans except other romans. So the tengri and german pagans are happy unless they fight agains me or my allies.
Being at war with too many enemies might make very happy guys still be unwhiling to join alliances with you obviously, they are still allies just not officially, having an army close to those you want to make alliances with help too.
Just blame yourselves for not understanding it and ask people why instead of going blind assuming things like ''its broken''...
Its working and its working well, period.
You clearly didn't read anything because we are not discussing the attitude of the subjegated people to your faction.... I had no time to find out if the angles would accept my as their ruler by giving them gifts and coverting their regilion.
Why do you ask? Well if you read anything I wouldn't have to type it again, but the reason is because my long time ally (literally from turn 5 or so, my brothers the danes, I am geats) attack my subjugated faction (the angles) and take them over.
No war or anything. That was my protectorate. As Mile said it is how it worked in shogun 2, it is how it works in civ.
The entire idea behind this concept is they pay me money and hopefully my armies will keep them alive from outside threats. It is clearly broken when my own personal ally can attack my subjugated land with 0 consequences......
Edit:
The danes attacked the angles the turn after I subjugated them. I clearly just loaded the game as the mechanic seems broken in that sense. Tell me how it is meant to work that way?
If I'm allied with ''A'' and and I sujugate ''B'' , but ''A'' doesnt like ''B'' chances are you are going for this:
you subjugate B and A declare war on them:
now you break the treaty by not joining war with B so you dont get at war with A, ending the sujugation and making big + with A and big - with B and ''friends''.
Now enemies of B will like you more for breaking treaties with B, but you'll get penalties with those who like them etc...
In the end you made a subjugated faction or a better friend :)
Now I understand that you think that a subjugated faction should be considered ''yours'' by your allies, but in fact its not yours at all its only spared from annihilation in exchange for tribute, your ally still might want them annihilated though.
Choose carefully who you subjugate, why, and if it will be ok to break treaties with them should allies declare war on them, that you might refuse to protect said subjugated faction.
There is diplomatic consequences for everything you do.
My subj factions often ask me to join war against X faction. I just refuse. If they ask me to defend them, I then weight in the consequences for doing it or breaking it.
Does it help?