i totally hate technologies of western roman empire

[hans-fp]

first it replaces your profesional army with ♥♥♥♥ militia and levy soldiers , disrupting true roman elements , it disables other good neccesary technologies like high tier entertaining and sanitation , it suck , and the worst of all , turning yourself into a FILTHY CORRUPT HEREDITARY MONARCHY? rome founders would spit on you and call you traitor ROME NEED NO KINGS NOR TYRANTS , becouse there is no other word for what technology does , you shoot your own feet it just feels terrible and makes me dont want to invest in many technologies
i hope some mod fixes this
and worse of all it is not even translated to spanish
technology is a handicap in this game

[hans-fp]

a good refresh to tech is needed

[Budoshi]

Originally posted by ♈ King Arvan Artis:

Originally posted by danrenepetersen1:

I think it seems very accurate with the way things were back then.. (I think) Honestly the church was a very corrupt religon/organisation back then and they didnt aprove of technological evolotion, so what you are saying is you dont want a historically accurate game?

The church was not corrupt yet, thats in the 1500 your thinking of.

At this time Catholics are doing the same as the Romans.... survive. And yes they did aprove of techological evolotion. Who do you think is doing the reaserch and keeping records?

To a degree, its well known that they didnt like evolution if they couldn't control it, alchemy was one of those forbidden pratice that was punished by death penalty if practiced ,they liked to control the mass and educated mass that think for themselves arent good. imperial library.why on earth i cant make them after researching some catholic research then ? :) anyway
i think the west is fine having it the same as the east would be boring too many same units already and buildings.

And why sanitation is forbidden after certain catholic research?.. appearently you dont need to bath if you are a good christian lol

[hans-fp]

Originally posted by Budoshi:

Originally posted by ♈ King Arvan Artis:

The church was not corrupt yet, thats in the 1500 your thinking of.

At this time Catholics are doing the same as the Romans.... survive. And yes they did aprove of techological evolotion. Who do you think is doing the reaserch and keeping records?

To a degree, its well known that they didnt like evolution if they couldn't control it, alchemy was one of those forbidden pratice that was punished by death penalty if practiced ,they liked to control the mass and educated mass that think for themselves arent good. imperial library.why on earth i cant make them after researching some catholic research then ? :) anyway
i think the west is fine having it the same as the east would be boring too many same units already and buildings.

And why sanitation is forbidden after certain catholic research?.. appearently you dont need to bath if you are a good christian lol

Oh yes I heard something about it: it has something to do with the Christian research tech being antithetical to the 'pagan' sanitation and entertainment research
pretty stupid Just let us keep all the tech
As if late antique Christians by nature want to swim in their own filth......
They should stop reading Eduard Gibbon right now!

[Darcaem]

Originally posted by Budoshi:

appearently you dont need to bath if you are a good christian lol

As long as you have enough water for baptism, it is ok :)

[Kronuxen]

Originally posted by hans-fp:

it suck , and the worst of all , turning yourself into a FILTHY CORRUPT HEREDITARY MONARCHY? rome founders would spit on you and call you traitor ROME NEED NO KINGS NOR TYRANTS

The year is 395 after christ. The rome you are playing as isnt the republic of rome, its the western roman empire... and in reality it was ruled by tyrants you like it or not. By the way x) rome founder would spit on that? rome was founded as a monarchy not a republic.

The thing that im seeing in this post, is that you want the WRE to be as the Roman republic of Rome 2, which it isnt...and it shoudnt. It isnt a failed game mechanic because you dont like it, its working as intended and while you dont like it me and other love it. From the technological aspect, I agree, there are many technologies that "damage" but they are sometimes worth the cost, as at the same time they will unlock later techs which are actually good. And in the words of the devs, the tech trees are based on reality, CA didnt invent those units, that army progression is realistic you like it or not.

This is the fall of the roman empire, you will have to struggle if you want to survive or even conquer the map, face the challenges they faced in reality with hordes, corruption, bad management, overextension etc.. and stop whining.

[Snofur]

Played as WRE with the R:TW mod, and I came to turn 60 and I had scandinavia germania and some other areas near inlcuding the Boarders of Russia territories.

Radious Total War mod is the one to go for if you want a change. It disables the ''disabling of technology''/Changes the techtree logic.

[Archmagos YD]

Originally posted by hans-fp:

i hope some mod fixes this

there you have your answer. stop whining.

[Darcaem]

Originally posted by ☧$πøκεπ☧:

Played as WRE with the R:TW mod, and I came to turn 60 and I had scandinavia germania and some other areas near inlcuding the Boarders of Russia territories.

Radious Total War mod is the one to go for if you want a change. It disables the ''disabling of technology''/Changes the techtree logic.

So... basically you want the same as you would do playing Rome II TW, but paying for a new game.

I'm not saying nothing about Radious. I haven't play with it yet, but I assume it is great, just as former Radious mods. I'm saying that making the game easier and turning it into another Rome II with some darker graphics is not what many people want (me among them)

Is historically accurate (more or less), that's all. The roman culture is being forgotten and substituted by christianity. This era is called the dark ages for some reason...

[Jerry Valentine]

Originally posted by ☧$πøκεπ☧:

Played as WRE with the R:TW mod, and I came to turn 60 and I had scandinavia germania and some other areas near inlcuding the Boarders of Russia territories.

Radious Total War mod is the one to go for if you want a change. It disables the ''disabling of technology''/Changes the techtree logic.

Radious seems to make the game too easy. Units are way to cheap. At least in the current version for Attila. Has some cool units though. Other than that I feel it dumbs the game down a bit.

[Snofur]

Yeah, one stack of a army is like 1000-1300 upkeep cost, it still needs some balancing, maybe according to difficulty too.

[Anárion]

Originally posted by vramz92:

Originally posted by ☧$πøκεπ☧:

Played as WRE with the R:TW mod, and I came to turn 60 and I had scandinavia germania and some other areas near inlcuding the Boarders of Russia territories.

Radious Total War mod is the one to go for if you want a change. It disables the ''disabling of technology''/Changes the techtree logic.

Radious seems to make the game too easy. Units are way to cheap. At least in the current version for Attila. Has some cool units though. Other than that I feel it dumbs the game down a bit.

It might make it too easy, but at least you will be able to create armies with higher tier units that do not cost almost 7000 in upkeep. You also don't have buildings that consume 200 food which is ridiculous.

[Anárion]

Originally posted by ☧$πøκεπ☧:

Yeah, one stack of a army is like 1000-1300 upkeep cost, it still needs some balancing, maybe according to difficulty too.

I think he should double his current upkeep costs or at least increase them by 50%. I have high-level armies in Rome 2 that cost around 3000-4000 in upkeep, even with his mod on. That is more manageable than the current vanilla costs, while not feeling as much like cheating as his current mod does.