The first thing you should do as The Visigoths?

[FlamingRedAlpha フレーミン]

I started a Campagin and got rekt by the Eastern Roman Empire. I took the closest settlement and Rome came and annihilated me with forces of size.

What actions should I take first?

Questions:

What settlement should I take first?
What actions should I do once I take said settlement?
What should I build?
How long should I grow my miliary and econimy up till I take another settlement?
What buildings should I build first?

Evertime I redo a play though with these guys, I always seem to get over run with hordes of Romans.

[FlamingRedAlpha フレーミン]

bump

[Azerty]

Take England with Visigoth, haha ! :p

For real, I don't know, I think you shouldn't take a settlement at the begining, you maybe must go far away, in a easy region for grow up (I think Britania, Egypt, Noth-East of Germania, etc...)


And sorry for my english sire ;)

[Spec]

As the Visigoths you'll want to get aways from the Balkan region sooner rather than later, the area is a mess early on with the onset of numerous horde nations, the Eastern Roman Empire can/will put up a decent defense of their lands and the eventual arrival of the Huns will only make matters worse for you.

My first move was to sack Thessalonica, move through southern Greece sacking those towns; then moving along the coastline north and into northern Italy, by that time you will have enough money to settle somewhere. It's wise not to fight the Western Empire just yet but move across their borders and into their fertile lands.

I eventually settled the cities of Aquae Sextiae and Narbo in southern Gaul, the lands are fertile there, provide good income and food surplus. The Western Romans bear little resistance in the region so you're not overwhelmed. After you obtain one province you should sit on it and build up your economy and food surplus before planning any conquest.

Then again, that's just what I did (on Legendary difficulty), it might have been better decision to settle in Italy, Sicily or even Africa. Anyways, good luck.

[twitch.tv/Mattikush]

bump. found this lookin for visigoth information. if anyone is reading this and has any experience plz respond! ty

[Nick Naughty]

My idea is to be the liberators of rome.

Stay as a horde, sack, liberate, subjugate as much as possible.

[Gekko]

Go to Africa, nice and isolated plus the food farming is great when... "winter is coming..."

[Vharzul]

Realy depends on your playstyle as well, Visigoths are not hard to get to grips with, ofc the ERE is strong, but if you know your suroundings and whats coming its easy anyway, just think your moves ahead..

But generaly speaking your better of going more or less for thier Historical Setteling location, that being Narbonensis or also id say head for Burdogila in SE France, from thier Expand realy..

the options are varied, but you could also settle in Italy and its Northen part, depends on your personal taste and what recources and City templates for building you want...

overall, go around and sack and preferably head to the area you want to settle, build up on the way, get another Armie or leave it at two, do your Tech research, lvl up potential Governers through Retainership etc

Advice: before your settle demolish your Horde buildings in your Armies, if it takes 3 turns to get rid of all because you got up to lvl 3 Horde buildings then do so, the money you invest you get alot back, so if you have say 30k already and you invested through time, then your get an additional 20-30k from Dismanteling your Horde camp buildings... pending what you built etc, amount varies, just make sure you increase your tax income to account for deficit for the 2-3 turns or what ever until all are dismanteld and you can settle...

Thats what I do, generaly I do this and its worth while even though it can be a pain to do so..

also if you have say lvl 1 Main Camp which cant be demolished, then you got lvl 2 second slot building and for agricult in 3rd slot lvl 3 and others lvl 2 or one buildings, then dismantel accordingly, use your first dismantel turn to take down the lvl 3 buildings then second turn all are lvl 2 then demolish them and 3rd turn is all lvl 1 and demolish them.. that way you dont get into a heavy deficit to early

I do this strategy for all Hordes that can settle realy, you get alot of Money back that youv invested over time ;-)

Dispite the deficit for a few turns you get more back then it eats in your budget, once settled you have enough money to play with realy or should and start converting/build your City's

[twitch.tv/Mattikush]

Publicado originalmente por Cypher:

Realy depends on your playstyle as well, Visigoths are not hard to get to grips with, ofc the ERE is strong, but if you know your suroundings and whats coming its easy anyway, just think your moves ahead..

But generaly speaking your better of going more or less for thier Historical Setteling location, that being Narbonensis or also id say head for Burdogila in SE France, from thier Expand realy..

the options are varied, but you could also settle in Italy and its Northen part, depends on your personal taste and what recources and City templates for building you want...

overall, go around and sack and preferably head to the area you want to settle, build up on the way, get another Armie or leave it at two, do your Tech research, lvl up potential Governers through Retainership etc

Advice: before your settle demolish your Horde buildings in your Armies, if it takes 3 turns to get rid of all because you got up to lvl 3 Horde buildings then do so, the money you invest you get alot back, so if you have say 30k already and you invested through time, then your get an additional 20-30k from Dismanteling your Horde camp buildings... pending what you built etc, amount varies, just make sure you increase your tax income to account for deficit for the 2-3 turns or what ever until all are dismanteld and you can settle...

Thats what I do, generaly I do this and its worth while even though it can be a pain to do so..

also if you have say lvl 1 Main Camp which cant be demolished, then you got lvl 2 second slot building and for agricult in 3rd slot lvl 3 and others lvl 2 or one buildings, then dismantel accordingly, use your first dismantel turn to take down the lvl 3 buildings then second turn all are lvl 2 then demolish them and 3rd turn is all lvl 1 and demolish them.. that way you dont get into a heavy deficit to early

I do this strategy for all Hordes that can settle realy, you get alot of Money back that youv invested over time ;-)

Dispite the deficit for a few turns you get more back then it eats in your budget, once settled you have enough money to play with realy or should and start converting/build your City's

I would like to do whatever is the best to start up a settled faction, possibly where you mentioned in IBeria.

Thanks a bunch for the advice. Historically I'm clueless as to what they did during the exact time and where they went and such. France seems like a good choice although getting there is hard as sacking through rome my armies end up getting killed.

If I stay in Macedonia I end up getting killed by the huns and even by nothern italy they have shown some force. I will go for France then. Although I don't think I will declare war on the WRE until I find a spot to settle as I'm not sure I could handle their military force. Thanks again for the information!

[Vharzul]

Sack Thesalonica and work your way over to Dyrachium on East coast of Greece then head up to Salona and sack and then from thier cross and go for Thirantium or what ever and sack from south to north, try to get a spy early to look ahead, should have no realy problem that way geting to Narbonesis/Aquitain Region

Also seeing as you said that Visigoths arnt at war with Western Rome, you could go through them without oposition, if you go between Genua and Mediodolanum thiers a Trade route thier, raid it with a full Stack Army to get alot of money per turn if you want to build a while, this is easy without going to war ;-)

Historicly speaking the Visi settled in the Narbonensis roughly although thier Capitol was in Talouse in France which is the minor city near Burdogila, but id take Bordugila in that case and take Aquitain in all, Avaricum in the Aquitain region to what Burdogila belongs to has a Gold Recource which is handy, so take your pick between Narbonensis Region or Aquitain.. from either of thoes you can expand into Italy, Northern France or Spain, do bare in mind though if you split the Empire that you might get two fronts, so think ahead and use your Spy's to scout of on the boarders to see whats coming from Rome

[twitch.tv/Mattikush]

So I just lost a legendary campaign where my Visigoth single stack army came and took over two towns and was promptly crushed by a massive 6 stack attack so I really am not sure about what to do when it comes to settling as I'm not sure how to defend against that.

[RyBo]

Publicado originalmente por VRMattikush:

So I just lost a legendary campaign where my Visigoth single stack army came and took over two towns and was promptly crushed by a massive 6 stack attack so I really am not sure about what to do when it comes to settling as I'm not sure how to defend against that.

You didn't go far enough away. Rule of thumb for this game head to WRE and profit. Lightly defended and lost of land.

I settle down in the Capital of a province normally near modern day Normandy Beach. The UK doesn't have any Legions leaving your Northern flank secure. With Barbarians on the East your secure there. The West flank ends only a province away thanks to the Atlantic. Which leaves your Southern flank open for expansion.

[Vharzul]

Twitch means Lugdunesis Region, Capital City thier is in the middle of France near Narbonensis Border, and the other two provinces to it are easy or relativly easy to take, but if hes playing on Legendary then the AI some times reacts differently, some times WRE does have good Armies nearby, still have to be carefull, when your defending your City make sure you have you troops inside preferably at a easy point to defend which is generaly the were main Victory point is and alot of the times Elivated...

at the end of the day its realy the only advice we can give, its how your play thats also the key factor, we cant play the game for you hehe ;D

[RyBo]

Publicado originalmente por Cypher:

Twitch means Lugdunesis Region, Capital City thier is in the middle of France near Narbonensis Border, and the other two provinces to it are easy or relativly easy to take

Thank you!

Your correct on the legendary thing but it really comes down to who attacks them first and where they go to react to that attack. I have also played enough to know where the WRE army's spawn and I do use that to my advantage lol. Call it spy intel.

Before the Workshop came around I did Legendary as with R2 but once it came out I stopped due to mods giving better Campaign, AI, Battles and no Restrictions (I like to test things). My campaigns now are much harder than before. Even though it's all trivial cause I've played the heck out of all the titles and I know all the in's and out's so really it's all a cake walk. It's all about how I restrict myself. Sadly..

My latest idea has been to migrate a viking faction from Roll 1 on down to ERE coast near Jerusalem and start a Total War campaign as soon as I get there.

[MINOS]

Take Iberia(Spain) and u will be unstoppable

[twitch.tv/Mattikush]

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Publicado originalmente por Cypher:

Twitch means Lugdunesis Region, Capital City thier is in the middle of France near Narbonensis Border, and the other two provinces to it are easy or relativly easy to take

Thank you!

Your correct on the legendary thing but it really comes down to who attacks them first and where they go to react to that attack. I have also played enough to know where the WRE army's spawn and I do use that to my advantage lol. Call it spy intel.

Before the Workshop came around I did Legendary as with R2 but once it came out I stopped due to mods giving better Campaign, AI, Battles and no Restrictions (I like to test things). My campaigns now are much harder than before. Even though it's all trivial cause I've played the heck out of all the titles and I know all the in's and out's so really it's all a cake walk. It's all about how I restrict myself. Sadly..

My latest idea has been to migrate a viking faction from Roll 1 on down to ERE coast near Jerusalem and start a Total War campaign as soon as I get there.

What kind of mods do you use? Do you by chance have the 400 man units mod? I'm just curiouis what you use to mix it up! Also Legendary is what I play on as well and it really does depend on who attacks them first, That's why as Visigoths before I go anywhere I play to liberate Dacia and Macedonia first, loot thessalonica, and then dip because then that's when the WRE sends stacks....going to try out the visi campaign one more time right now and see how it goes!

Publicado originalmente por MINOS:

Take Iberia(Spain) and u will be unstoppable

I landed in eastern spain and got crushed, so I don't know if it would be different on western side of spain near portugal