Papal States question

[*****]

I have a question I just took over the Papal States in Age of Charlemagne as the Lombards, before this I was excommunicated from the church, Now that the Papal states no longer exist will that be withheld and everything will go back to normal? Also now that I am in control of the Papal states and am technically the pope can I run the church and do catholic church duties as well as my normal goverment duties?

[iNDiSieL]

STILL WAITING FOR THAT ANSWER??? Yes excommunicated for once but what happens later? I didnt diminsh Papal States. Well, because I simple didnt want to be excommunicated for the rest of game and made a peace. But still excommunicated. There was an option at negotiation tab like "remove excommunication" at Medieval II Total War. There is no such thing here. And guess what? Lombards excommunicated for the rest of campaign. GG WP EZ.

[Gbear450]

Excommunication doesn't last the whole game guys, it last till your king dies.

[Chairswing]

so conquering rome and then killing your king in a sudoku battle is safe? so basically no penalty for conquering rome?

[Gbear450]

yep thats what I did no penalty lol

[Mile pro Libertate]

I don't think control of the Papal lands gives you control of the Church, at least I hope it doesn't.

The Holy See didn't even exist as we think of now until about 300 years after Charlemagne's time. Historically, there were several times where the Pope didn't directly hold any lands. Vatican city didn't come into existence till about 1930, and no that is not a mistype, so Rome didn't have the political significance for Papal authority we think of now.

[*****]

Alright good to know, thank you

[Maniac86]

Originally posted by *****:

I have a question I just took over the Papal States in Age of Charlemagne as the Lombards, before this I was excommunicated from the church, Now that the Papal states no longer exist will that be withheld and everything will go back to normal? Also now that I am in control of the Papal states and am technically the pope can I run the church and do catholic church duties as well as my normal goverment duties?

I haven't seen his come up yet, but in the older games the Papal states would simply exist or exile or demand territory from a more loyal nation.

[la_nague]

well in history the pope had some power not because of land, but because he could grant the mandate to rule by god, also excommunication and all that stuff.

But he was at some point subdued by force and made to announce his captor emperor.



So both work, pope can be strong or weak

[Andy's Take]

Anyone know here where the "pope" ancillary is when you get the pope mission as franks?