Who Else Wants a Crusades Game?

[Goodyear]

Is it just me, or has CA been avoiding the Crusades like the plague? I vaguely remember Medieval 2 took place during that era, but even it lacked a Crusades campaign. Attila's DLC skirts really closely to the time of the founding of Islam, I'd honestly love playing the Conquests of Muhammad, too, but I think its nomad mechanics and support for a highly defensive strategy would stand out as the best aspects of a First Crusade campaign.

The Crusader armies could start off nomadic and allied to the Byzantines, basically like the Roman Expedition in the Last Roman DLC; you could have the fedayeen Hashashin Order playable, sort of make them an Arab equivalent of the Hattori from Shogun 2; and you could even use some of the Warhammer mechanics, and have the Peoples Crusade act like Chaos and just let them attack Christian, Jew, and Muslim alike.

Either way, I think the tools to make a great Crusade campaign are there, and if Creeative Assembly doesn't want to capitalize, well, free idea for modders I guess.

[Quade]

There is a mod called Medieval Total War Kingdoms and they are pretty successful - i would fire that feminist Woman from CA and get those mod Team.

[Goodyear]

You do know women led armies and participated in war all through history, right? Boudica, Aisha, Zenobia, Cheng I Sao, etc. I mean ♥♥♥♥, you losers don't have a legitimate argument to stand on with that fight.

[RalphRoberts]

Originally posted by DJ Wise Pariah:

I vaguely remember Medieval 2 took place during that era, but even it lacked a Crusades campaign

Medieval 2 had a Crusades campaign though...

[Shazbot]

Medieval 2 literally had a crusades campaign and you could launch crusades basically whenever you want as a game mechanic for christian factions

[Goodyear]

I'm not talking about having "Call Crusade/Jihad" as a mechanic that basically acts as coordinated war target, I mean give us a proper Medieval 3. Thrones of Britannia doesn't count, either, because it's basically Attila 2.

[Sand]

Medieval 3 would be lovely, but the Kingdoms expansion for Med 2 had a Crusades campaign. In fact it sort of had two; one for the crusade to retake the Jerusalem, and one for the Livonian crusade. If they're avoiding it, it's only because they've done it.

[JoeShmoe]

CA said they will never make one of their titles 3 times, which would be the case if they were to make Medieval again. However, its a disservice to the community as Med2 is so old, we dont have a modern graphical representation of the era. Not to mention the fact that the Feudal era is by far the most recognizable and probably best type of game to base an RTS on. Ancient/Sci-Fi getting runner ups.

[Goodyear]

Originally posted by JoeShmoe:

its a disservice to the community as Med2 is so old

That's what I'm thinking, too. It's going on what, almost 12 years old now? That's probably why I don't remember it that well, either. I'd rather play it with updated programming too, because lets face it, the earlier games are kind of janky. Like, takes 5 minutes to take up a position on walls, janky.

[Count D'Cinamon]

Well guys try to play the mod 1220 AD, its a great mod that convert the main campaign into a medieval europe era + crusade system and events (coming in the full release in mid october)

The mod is awsome, id say it felt as if Attila is a medieval 3

[Goodyear]

I'll look into it, thanks.

[MrButBut]

The child crusade DLC, that would be great.

[E]

I'd like to see a Crusades-based game but not as limited and small as the Medieval 2 Kingdoms Crusades campaign. In my opinion the Broken Crescent mod for that game did the best representation of the time.

If there is a game, it should include most of the Middle East and Egypt-Nubia, parts of western Persia, Caucasus mountains and the Arabian Peninsula. since all of the region was a potential Crusade target. Also perhaps Greece and the Balkans, since Fourth Crusade was directed there and Byzantines cannot play their full potential with western half of their empire missing.

Originally posted by Quade:

There is a mod called Medieval Total War Kingdoms and they are pretty successful - i would fire that feminist Woman from CA and get those mod Team.

Lol, you incels can ♥♥♥♥ right off. We don't need more useless trash.

[Raider Deci]

No. I really dont. I am not that fond of forced invasions. The Huns is annoying, and the chaos that literally works the same way was also annoying (except killed off faster). Facing the mongols wasnt a blast either.

And if you have crusades that will likely end in one of 2 scenarios;
1: A horde that just respawns over & over until a certain date or character is killed (if AI-controlled), like the one mentioned above. Yeah there are some flavors but gameplay-wise it will be the same
2: Stomped during the first 10 turns never to return again ingame



Then why someone wants a new medieval 3 but with way less features is beyond me, because thats pretty much a given. It sure as hel isnt going to be made like the second.

[Goodyear]

Originally posted by Darth Salt:

Originally posted by DJ Wise Pariah:

You do know women led armies and participated in war all through history, right? Boudica, Aisha, Zenobia, Cheng I Sao, etc. I mean ♥♥♥♥, you losers don't have a legitimate argument to stand on with that fight.

yep, they were indeed there! nevermind it was few, far between, and if we could get numbers from way back then it would prob be 99.999999999% men

Na must all be incel loser alt reich man baby beardbros.

Yeah, but you lack education and don't know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Deci:

Then why someone wants a new medieval 3 but with way less features is beyond me

I guess it is beyond you, because Medieval 2 had less features than No Man's Sky. A TW game from the Medieval title launched today would actually have a ton of things to do.

[Raider Deci]

Originally posted by DJ Wise Pariah:

I guess it is beyond you, because Medieval 2 had less features than No Man's Sky. A TW game from the Medieval title launched today would actually have a ton of things to do.

And youre basing that off what? No mans sky and its update? Didnt know we compared different genres here. Given the current trend in the TW-franchise its steadily going downhill in features. You can expect the current region-system, you can expect how cities are managed in the latest titles, you can expect stacks with unlimited manpower. You can problaby expect limited battlemaps (WH) instead of generated. What you cannot expect is how medieval 2 worked.