Bad Traits

[walsh_cm]

What is the deal with negative traits that seemingly have nothing to do with anything?

I have started more games than I can count as ERE and I really cannot remember a game where my Emperor did not end up with the "Torturer" trait which gives a -2 to public order in ALL provinces. In all my games recently I make the Emperor a governor. Why do I continue to get such a terrible trait every single game? Is it because I am playing VH?

[Teh_Diplomat]

Typically, repressive actions; high taxes for an extended period, rebellions, and the spread of factions into your lands.

There may exist some chart, to indicate (I recall a spreadsheet Med2) as to what actions can bring about negative traits, but generally speaking, bad actions bring about negative traits; while heroic (in terms of battles) or good actions can bring about positive traits.


Also the game's nature means that each time you launch a campaign, the traits of your family tree will slightly vary, from wives to heirs, and siblings.

[walsh_cm]

Taxes always always normal. If anything I have on occasion lowered them, never raised. I did have several rebellions this game as I have several wars. When Sassanids declare war on turn 6, things are just going to be chaotic for a while, nothing I can do about that. Either way, I have this trait every single game. Is there any way to get rid of it?

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by walsh_cm:

Taxes always always normal. If anything I have on occasion lowered them, never raised. I did have several rebellions this game as I have several wars. When Sassanids declare war on turn 6, things are just going to be chaotic for a while, nothing I can do about that. Either way, I have this trait every single game. Is there any way to get rid of it?

Do you execute prisoners from your battles alot?

[Rose]

Got the same thing every single time as the ERE I think the Emperor is just hard codes to get bad traits at the very start of the game

[Teh_Diplomat]

Originally posted by HCol. Jasmin (یاسمن):

Got the same thing every single time as the ERE I think the Emperor is just hard codes to get bad traits at the very start of the game

That's also true of the Attila campaign, the emperors of the WRE and ERE are hard-coded to have a set of traits that are generated each time you launch a campaign.

What can differ is the traits of wives and family members, even among the other factions you can select in a campaign.

[Coldsnaps]

I think it depends on what you do in game. My WRE playthrough I forced prisoners into the army a lot, and my emperor got the torturer trait, but when I released them a lot he got the general kindness trait.

[walsh_cm]

Mostly early on I make them join my army, but that hardly coincides with torturing. I could understand it if I killed most of the prisoners. I get negative traits no matter what I do with Arcadius, and torturer is ALWAYS there.

[Rose]

Originally posted by walsh_cm:

Mostly early on I make them join my army, but that hardly coincides with torturing. I could understand it if I killed most of the prisoners.

Right they should be happy they didn't for lol

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by walsh_cm:

Mostly early on I make them join my army, but that hardly coincides with torturing. I could understand it if I killed most of the prisoners. I get negative traits no matter what I do with Arcadius, and torturer is ALWAYS there.

I think it might be like you guys were saying: ERE and WRE are hardcoded to have bad leader traits at the start.

Makes sense I guess...Theodosius' sons were pretty hopeless irl from what I understand.