Total War: ATTILA

Total War: ATTILA

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A honest review. Might be the Worst TW I have ever played.
I've played a ton of TW games, but this particular one makes me feel it was rushed just like Rome 2. At lease R2TW still received patches and support. The AI completely sucks in pathfinding and executing orders, imagine in a siege battle you tried to get a rear charge with your cavalry but more than half of the unit run into the wall instead of a blob of enemies, or they just flee in the opposite direction, or just ignoring your order and stop. As I remember this was fixed and it's much better in R2TW, TWWH1 and TWWH2.

Secondly, the artificial illogical hidden AI buffs in Legendary/VH difficulty, I can live fine with AI's campaign buff but the battle buff ruins it all when some enemy levies can go toes to toes with your elite infantry, or even better. Your general dies with half of his body guard alive, when their general is one of the last 5 be killed, Huns troops would fight to the last man and never rout if you killed their general. (srsly hunnic archer/uar warrior often fight with one man even if morale is -25 already). Changing battle difficulty in settings does not get rid of it at all. On campaign map, if you managed to destroy one Hunnic army but let one unit away, he will replenish full of a stack in the next turn on your own territory without encamping (WTF?). AI agents buff is annoying and unreal, they can kill your 9 stars generals/agents easily with a level 2 spy, while your 10 stars Champion gets Critical failure with a 70% positive outcome, your agents will fail most of the time I'm sure with you. Even five times I got Critical success manipulating AI's agents but they doesn't change side at all, CA you are trying too hard to make your game stupid.

AI's missile accuracy in a nutshell: "pinpoint and fast reloading as hell". AI's attilery NEVER MISS, one unit of small ornager can destroy a cavalry unit in 2 volleys, they just need one volley to destroy a tower and snipe your onagers before they realize something, meanwhile your large onager needs to fire at least 2-3 and more volleys to get one tower. Your archers and crossbows are stupid as **** firing in a straight line spreading and do team kill. AI's crossbowmen fire in an arc upward in total accurate style and twice faster than your archers standing on the wall, destroying them. DON'T buy archers in this game as WRE, they can't even kill horse archers or enemy missile units standing still doing tiny damage and miss too much. I have seen a Hunnic horse archer ate 3 arrows and still alive.

The fertility mechanic which makes the weather colder nonstopable, that lower your food supply and all. at least we can use a mod to fix it.

Horrible unit design, you cannot say which one is higher tier units by their outer look, the Roman Empires design looks really bad no matter historical accuracy. (luckily one of my countryman created a mod named "Elite WRE ERE" and brought the game very close to Barbarian Invasion)

Stupidly low garrison troops, as WRE you have only one spear, one melee, one cavalry and one javelin unit(even for capital!?), they are all low tier until level 4 building (what?) and 100% defenseless agaisnt horde of barbarians early game, you hardly build a watch tower because there aren't much more units and it takes one building slot which is necessary for public order and food. The babysitting is real and frustrating.

Overcomplicated game mechanic,counting fertility one. Diseases that spread from neighbor factions that trade with you,despite your sanitation is good; Total food supply is positive but if one specific region is not a bread basket, you are screwed. Buildings which you never touch because their negative effects are more than its income. Loyalty mechanic that doesn't work in any rule, you try your best to keep your general's loyalty and your Control and Dominion are all above 55% and you are "Respectable" then boom! 5 of your generals from 8 loyalty drops to below 2 all suddenly after a turn ended, the others are all below 5 including your family members but I didn't do anything wrong. ( I have only 12 active generals)

AI that overaggressive and does "wallhack" on campaign map, you barely see ahead but they find and kill you suddenly with two full stacks. They'll try to avoid your towns with army and rush through the unprotected ones behind just to sack them, even when they know you will hunt them down in the next turn to kill them all. That's pure annoying and I have to delete the game. Luckily it's much better in Warhammer, even campaign mechanic is closer to Rome 2 and its predecessors.

Unit spacing problem in Siege/forest/rough geo/ village,fence.

Many people may say I need to play on normal then but I always play on Legendary/VH because I like challenge, YET not the fake stupidly overwhelming one, it takes away the game's immersion. As playing other titles I do feel the fun in it including Rome 2, but all about this game is stress.

P/s: Instead of deleting the game I'll continue to play to exploit flaws and to write in this thread. Only one plus point I have seen so far is Generals and Agents change their appearance leveling up. Anyways I'll wait till May to WH2 to finish its all dlc and come back there.

One more plus: There is now factions that like powerful Empire, here is Slav who is willing to give his daughters to me and admires my faction, he looks just like Putin and I decided to make alliance with him and let him alive may be till the end.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1286021150
Last edited by 𝓕𝒖𝒏𝒌𝒚; Jan 30, 2018 @ 5:52am
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Hat8 Jan 28, 2018 @ 4:55pm 
Worse than Empire and Rome II? Alright
Coldsnaps Jan 28, 2018 @ 5:12pm 
I mean, if it isn't your thing don't play it my dude/gal.
Brutus Mars Jan 28, 2018 @ 5:33pm 
I like the game, but the AI sucks ass sometimes.
Sandvich Jan 28, 2018 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by hat22:
Worse than Empire
Empire is actually pretty fun.
Warsmith Honsou Jan 28, 2018 @ 11:34pm 
Get good or go back to warhammer and have your hand held as the game gives you hugs and kisses.
Originally posted by Warsmith Honsou:
Get good or go back to warhammer and have your hand held as the game gives you hugs and kisses.
Nah Warhammers gave me hell as well, but it's still fun to play. Hordes of Chaos and skaven which ignore Ai faction and come to player only, ridiculous recruitment AI. (on Legendary)
Last edited by 𝓕𝒖𝒏𝒌𝒚; Jan 29, 2018 @ 4:51am
Originally posted by Warsmith Honsou:
Get good or go back to warhammer and have your hand held as the game gives you hugs and kisses.
And still I have spent more than hundred hours to this game despite the fact it is worse than other games, I have started to play all the titles from 2004 minus the first med and shogun then still want to finish this game cus I'm a true fan to TW, and maybe a true review may have the devs to improve their future historical products. Including The 3 Kingdoms title that I'm very interested.
Basilhare Jan 29, 2018 @ 5:09am 
Atilla & Warhammer have been my favorites of the series. I love the Desert Kingdoms DLC playing hard on Lakhmids....very challenging...immersive...fun!
Originally posted by Basilhare:
Atilla & Warhammer have been my favorites of the series. I love the Desert Kingdoms DLC playing hard on Lakhmids....very challenging...immersive...fun!
Ya I agree with Warhammer 1&2. Very fun to play. especially Mortal Empire. Unfortunately Atilla does not bring me that, of course the concept is good but it has poor execution.
Choke me Wesker Jan 29, 2018 @ 6:10am 
And yet you played the game for 96 hours in the past 2 weeks...
Originally posted by Starving Uruk Hai:
And yet you played the game for 96 hours in the past 2 weeks...
Lol it says he's in it currently, up to 107 hours now.

He might have left it running in the background though, I've done that before.
Clovis Sangrail Jan 29, 2018 @ 10:06am 
Looks to me like someone jumped right in on Legendary without bothering to learn the basic game mechanics, got his ass kicked, and is now blaming the game
Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:
Looks to me like someone jumped right in on Legendary without bothering to learn the basic game mechanics, got his ass kicked, and is now blaming the game
LMAO I said I have experience on Legendary/VH and I have been in this series for 13 years, this title has poorest executed mechanic EVER, the devs tried to put as many things in the game as possible but don't bother to refine it, broken AI, broken gameplay, reused attilery code from Empire/Napoleon to make them accurate.
Originally posted by Funky:
Originally posted by Clovis Sangrail:
Looks to me like someone jumped right in on Legendary without bothering to learn the basic game mechanics, got his ass kicked, and is now blaming the game
LMAO I said I have experience on Legendary/VH and I have been in this series for 13 years, this title has poorest executed mechanic EVER, the devs tried to put as many things in the game as possible but don't bother to refine it, broken AI, broken gameplay, reused attilery code from Empire/Napoleon to make them accurate.
Still my ass is not kicked and I took half of the map already, I just don't feel entertainment in this game, combat is repetitive as hell, especially vs the Huns.
Originally posted by Funky:
Originally posted by Funky:
LMAO I said I have experience on Legendary/VH and I have been in this series for 13 years, this title has poorest executed mechanic EVER, the devs tried to put as many things in the game as possible but don't bother to refine it, broken AI, broken gameplay, reused attilery code from Empire/Napoleon to make them accurate.
Still my ass is not kicked and I took half of the map already, I just don't feel entertainment in this game, combat is repetitive as hell, especially vs the Huns.
the huns are the worst faction to play against, main issue total war has is that there is no ai just scripts
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Date Posted: Jan 28, 2018 @ 4:09pm
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