Attila Performance Issues

[Arkad]

Hello, I am having Issues running Attila on my PC, I have a AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8 Core Processor with a RX 580 GPU. The game stutters a lot, especially during the melee phase of the battles. I don't understand why, my PC runs Warhammer 2 at max just fine. And when I had an i5 and a GTX 970 two years ago the Attila ran fine. How can I optimize the game to run smoother?

[(Kratom)Hernandez]

Number one tone down settings because the game runs horrible even for people with new powerful systems. Number 2, I have gtx 970 as well and what I did was unistalll the driver and reinstall it without the HD audio driver and it solved most of the stuttering and plays smoothly now. It turns out that the 970 gtx has this problem. ALl of them have stuttering issus due to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ drivers. Google gtx 970 audio hd problems and you will see that i'm not lying.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by CrashHernandez:

Number one tone down settings because the game runs horrible even for people with new powerful systems. Number 2, I have gtx 970 as well and what I did was unistalll the driver and reinstall it without the HD audio driver and it solved most of the stuttering and plays smoothly now. It turns out that the 970 gtx has this problem. ALl of them have stuttering issus due to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ drivers. Google gtx 970 audio hd problems and you will see that i'm not lying.

It runs great for LeftistTears42 and Steve, apparently.

I'm sure they'll be along presently to start their bs again.

[Arkad]

Originally posted by CrashHernandez:

Number one tone down settings because the game runs horrible even for people with new powerful systems. Number 2, I have gtx 970 as well and what I did was unistalll the driver and reinstall it without the HD audio driver and it solved most of the stuttering and plays smoothly now. It turns out that the 970 gtx has this problem. ALl of them have stuttering issus due to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ drivers. Google gtx 970 audio hd problems and you will see that i'm not lying.

I had a GTX 970, and it ran smoothly then. Now I have a RX 580 a much more powerful GPU, and it runs like crap.
Here is the setting I have it at.

A-A: MLAA .Screen Space Res: Quality
Texture Res: Ultra .Grass: Preformance
Texture Filtering: Trilinear .Trees: Preformance
Shadows: Max Preformance .Terrain: Quality
Watter: Quality .Unit detail: Quality
Sky: Quality .Building Detail: Quality
DOF: Off .Unit Size: Ultra
Particle Effects: Quality .Porthole Quality: 3D

Any any Idea what is the Issue?

[Mile pro Libertate]

You may find this post useful:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/325610/discussions/0/1629663905411482289/

[Arkad]

So I have tried all of that, and the stuttering is still there. I am getting around 45 FPS, in my book that is very playable. But the stuttering just kills it for me. I will move the camera around and it stutters to the point that it throws me off. Any advice before I call it broken and uninstall?

[Hydra]

Originally posted by Arkad:

Hello, I am having Issues running Attila on my PC, I have a AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8 Core Processor with a RX 580 GPU. The game stutters a lot, especially during the melee phase of the battles. I don't understand why, my PC runs Warhammer 2 at max just fine. And when I had an i5 and a GTX 970 two years ago the Attila ran fine. How can I optimize the game to run smoother?

Hi, I believe I can fix your problem.

I use a Ryzen 2700x, so practically the same as you, and I also experienced extreme stuttering in battles. It made the game unplayable, despite my RTX 2080.

The fix that worked for me was as follows:

1. Go to C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\The Creative Assembly\Attila\scripts and open preferences.script.txt.

2. In that document, change number_of_threads 0 to however many threads your CPU has. In my case (and yours) that was number_of_threads 16.

3. Save the document before closing.

I noticed the sudden frame drops and juddering vanish, and I now get 90-120 fps in this game at 1440p with graphics on max quality, which is pretty good considering how poorly optimised it is.

I hope this works for you too my AMD friend :)

[Werecat101]

Mile pro Libertate well since you want me here, I don't see your own special brand of B/S about you cant get that FPS or its CPU bound to the person that found the lines in the config file I refered too, why no insultting demands at Hydra when he says he gets 120 fps, go ahead tell us all about how it only uses 1 core.

now the fun part is I can verify that Hydra's PC is about the same speed as my PC overall

my GPU is 5% faster but that is within a tiny amount when we are talking about the levels of PC in question.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4026vs3918

and we can talk about CPU where he has an 8% overall advantage but in 4 core operation we are so close as to be identicle

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3958vs3502

Why no demands on him putting up a video?.

was it because I was alone you thought you could victimise me?.


going back to Arkad your RX 580 is about 10% more powerful than the GTX970

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-Nvidia-GTX-970/3923vs2577

try turning the AA off!

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by steve:

Mile pro Libertate well since you want me here, I don't see your own special brand of B/S about you cant get that FPS or its CPU bound to the person that found the lines in the config file I refered too, why no insultting demands at Hydra when he says he gets 120 fps, go ahead tell us all about how it only uses 1 core.

now the fun part is I can verify that Hydra's PC is about the same speed as my PC overall

my GPU is 5% faster but that is within a tiny amount when we are talking about the levels of PC in question.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti/4026vs3918

and we can talk about CPU where he has an 8% overall advantage but in 4 core operation we are so close as to be identicle

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3958vs3502

Why no demands on him putting up a video?.

was it because I was alone you thought you could victimise me?.


going back to Arkad your RX 580 is about 10% more powerful than the GTX970

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-Nvidia-GTX-970/3923vs2577

try turning the AA off!

You need psychological help man.

PS: And there is a difference between frame rate stuttering, or hitching, which Hydra was talking about, and low minimum frames.

Manually setting thread count, along with other fixes, such as specifying the Vysnc mode, can help mitigate hitching/stuttering. This is well known, never been disputed by me, and in fact I have advocated such fixes myself many, many times over the years.

But in terms of raising the gross amount of frames, or increasing 1% low frame count and such, these types of fixes do not address the cause.

Again, there is a big difference between smoothing out frame hitching, and raising the min framerate.

If you actually had competency in this type of stuff, you would know that.

PPS: In fact, the main reason for hitching/stuttering is when there is a large discrepancy between min and max framerate: the rig goes from a situation where frames are easy to fetch, to a scene where the amount of data to be fetched rises dramatically, and if there is a bottleneck along the way, you'll see hitching.

So messing with the vsync, thread count preferences and such to smooth out framerate only corroborates further that framerate fluctuates wildly in Attila, something that supposedly is a non-factor for people such as yourself, who maintain that you see constant, steady fps across scenes/load. It is precisley because of CPU bottleneck (i.e. fetching logjam) that we see large discrepancy between highs and lows, again though, something you act like magically doesn't exist for you because of using a cpu with a decent thread count.

It's like someone that keeps a fire extinguisher close to the stove to put out their soufle, and talking about how useful it is for when they make soufle, which is always catching on fire, but then claiming that they, "never see any fires in their pan"...then what is the extinguisher for, and why are you using it?

[Werecat101]

so yet again you will ignore the point of my post his claim of "and I now get 90-120 fps"

With a pc very close to my machine his cpu is 3.7ghz my cpu is 4.2ghz

my fps is impossible and false according to you but you seem silent now another person has a similar framerate.

the fact is you are too incompetent to get the framerates,we enjoy if hydra has a 2700x you had a you claim to have a 1300x @3.8ghz with a GTX1060 which wont have the raw power of out high end cards but should easily get 50-60fps which is about half that of Hydra and your GPU is about half the speed of the RTX2080.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/4026vs3639

in your eyes I lack competence in my eyes you are the one with the low framerates.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by steve:

so yet again you will ignore the point of my post his claim of "and I now get 90-120 fps"

With a pc very close to my machine his cpu is 3.7ghz my cpu is 4.2ghz

my fps is impossible and false according to you but you seem silent now another person has a similar framerate.

Well, yet again, there is no context here.

Even a middling rig can get 90-120 fps in a low load scene.

If the scene is only a few thousand guys, and the camera is zoomed out, then frames will be good, even on all max settings.

The frames dip when load increases. That has always been the issue, and so for people to say they don't have that issue, they need to actually be on the same page as everyone else, to be looking at the performance in the same context.

One guy will complain about how frames dip to the 20s under load, like 9K troops engaging in close proximity to each other, then another guy invariably comes in and says something like, "not for me man, I just tested and had 60fps constant," forgetting to mention that this was with 3K troops, spread around the battle map, with the camera zoomed out, and never zooming in on more than 500 to 1K guys in one space.

It's about context. Citing low load situations to "prove" how performance is in high load situations is as useful as tits on a boar hog...but that's what a lot of people keep contributing again, and again, and again...and again...since 2015.

That's what LeftistTears42 did in the last thread (and another thread before that): he put up a video of c. 3K troops, all spread out, with hilly terrain geometry and fog (thus diminishing draw calls), and acted like he had thrown down incontrovertible evidence of Attila doing great under load. All he had shown was that under light load, the game does fine. We all know that already. It's not the issue.

Similarly with you Steve, you only have ever shown screenshots of scenes that would not be expected to tank framerate anyway...and then act like this proved a certain level of performance under load.

In thread after thread, this gets pointed out, and your response is to cry and say, "Oh mean people are calling me a liar."

If you cant figure out the difference between a high stress and a low stress scene, the difference between a good performance metric and not, thread after thread, it means you have a major mental block about this.

When that cognitive block is combined with you dumping tons of minutae about hardware and software, links to your synthetic benchmark results for your hardware, and claiming superior authority with your "IT background," as you always invariably end up doing, it makes it look like you are just trolling.

[Werecat101]

funny you cant read, he didnt say he gets huge drops in battles he gave a framerate variation I have posted the Londinium outcome many times and it shows what happens in detail.

face it your an idiot that hates the fact i get decent framerates. I would say his 90fps zoomed in on action the 120 is zoomed out, whats up history boy cant remember last few weeks where I HAVE POSTED MY LONDINIUM OUTPUT!. the same pic is in my artwork go look at it I get an average framerate that is high.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1535678746

look at the low point funny its in the 80-90 fps range

[Werecat101]

done it before

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1830648078&fileuploadsuccess=1

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1830659100&fileuploadsuccess=1


and yes I use vsync to limit the framerate it makes the game feel nicer. a solid 60fps no matter what I do in the game.

oh and I sat and watched LeftistTears42 do both the londinium script and the huge battle never dipped under 60fps and he uses Vsync for the same reason I do.

[Protagoras]

Originally posted by steve:

done it before

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1830648078&fileuploadsuccess=1

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1830659100&fileuploadsuccess=1


and yes I use vsync to limit the framerate it makes the game feel nicer. a solid 60fps no matter what I do in the game.

What are your specs? Sorry for asking so much, I'm just trying to get an idea of what upgrades I'll need.

[Werecat101]

here are my specs

CPU Intel I7-6700k which can run overclocked at 4.9Ghz
CPU cooling BU-09W-TL:Asetek 240mm 570LX fluid cooling system
MB Asus Maximus VIII Hero

Memory 32GBCorsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000MHz - Black
SSD - twin 512GB Samsung 850 PRO set as mirrored
Case CoolerMaster MasterCase Pro 5
PSU Super Flower Golden Green HX 750W "80 Plus Gold" - Black
Graphics Card AORUS GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce Xtreme Edition 11G O/C GPU 2060mhz mem at 5960mhz
O/S Windows 7 Pro custom install specialist build.

here are LeftistTears42 specs

CPU 9900k
GPU RTX2080TI


Hydra's


CPU AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X
GPU Nvidia-RTX-2080

so 3 people with good PC's get great performance, but some other people wih equally high specs don't.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by steve:

here are my specs

CPU Intel I7-6700k which can run overclocked at 4.9Ghz
CPU cooling BU-09W-TL:Asetek 240mm 570LX fluid cooling system
MB Asus Maximus VIII Hero

Memory 32GBCorsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000MHz - Black
SSD - twin 512GB Samsung 850 PRO set as mirrored
Case CoolerMaster MasterCase Pro 5
PSU Super Flower Golden Green HX 750W "80 Plus Gold" - Black
Graphics Card AORUS GTX 1080 Ti Waterforce Xtreme Edition 11G O/C GPU 2060mhz mem at 5960mhz
O/S Windows 7 Pro custom install specialist build.

here are LeftistTears42 specs

CPU 9900k
GPU RTX2080TI


Hydra's


CPU AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X
GPU Nvidia-RTX-2080

so 3 people with good PC's get great performance, but some other people wih equally high specs don't.

Hooked one, I see.

"Fish on!"