Making enemies tributary states?

[The Old Saxon]

I was wondering how exactly one makes an enemy a tributary state through conquering. I was able to make the Caledonians into my tributary state, but was unable to do the same with the Ebdanians. Was it that I hadn't destroyed all their outside armies before taking their capital, or what?

Also, will my tributary state rebel against me if I attack one of its former allies?

[Captain Stitch]

you attack their last settlement - win - and now you can Sack - Raze or Subjugate.. Pick Subjugate and he will be your tributary state

[The Old Saxon]

Originally posted by Firebug:

you attack their last settlement - win - and now you can Sack - Raze or Subjugate.. Pick Subjugate and he will be your tributary state

I realize that. However, for some reason that wasn't an option when it came to the Ebdanians.

[[AJSA]MeloDeath]

some factions cant be mad into tributary states-.-

[Captain Stitch]

yeah true some factions wont be .

[The Old Saxon]

Originally posted by Firebug:

yeah true some factions wont be .

How can you determine this, then?

[[AJSA]MeloDeath]

dunno google it?

[Captain Stitch]

erm - best way to try this is by your own - some will some not
Im sure that the following will be subjugatbale

- Gaul
- Septimia
- Illyria
- Macedonia

and ofc all playable factions

maybe all romanized Factions will be but the barbarians wont - I dunno

[The Old Saxon]

Originally posted by Firebug:

erm - best way to try this is by your own - some will some not
Im sure that the following will be subjugatbale

- Gaul
- Septimia
- Illyria
- Macedonia

and ofc all playable factions

maybe all romanized Factions will be but the barbarians wont - I dunno

No; the Caledonians were barbarains. Anyway, thanks for your imput, everyone!

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by Wolf Surge:

I was wondering how exactly one makes an enemy a tributary state through conquering.

Simply capture their last town, and to the far right (after "Sack"), you'll see the option to Subjugate.

Originally posted by Wolf Surge:

I was able to make the Caledonians into my tributary state, but was unable to do the same with the Ebdanians. Was it that I hadn't destroyed all their outside armies before taking their capital, or what?

You do not have to destroy all of their armies. I have made factions into tributaries with 2 of their stacks camped right outside their town.

If you can ask the faction to become a tributary in the diplomacy screen, them you can do it by taking their last settlement.

Originally posted by Wolf Surge:

Also, will my tributary state rebel against me if I attack one of its former allies?

It depends on what kind of relations they have with you, the relations they have with the former ally, their power level, your power level, and the temperment of the tributary (reliable/unreliable, aggressive/cautious, etc.)

[The Old Saxon]

Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:

Originally posted by Wolf Surge:

I was wondering how exactly one makes an enemy a tributary state through conquering.

Simply capture their last town, and to the far right (after "Sack"), you'll see the option to Subjugate.

Originally posted by Wolf Surge:

I was able to make the Caledonians into my tributary state, but was unable to do the same with the Ebdanians. Was it that I hadn't destroyed all their outside armies before taking their capital, or what?

You do not have to destroy all of their armies. I have made factions into tributaries with 2 of their stacks camped right outside their town.

If you can ask the faction to become a tributary in the diplomacy screen, them you can do it by taking their last settlement.

Originally posted by Wolf Surge:

Also, will my tributary state rebel against me if I attack one of its former allies?

It depends on what kind of relations they have with you, the relations they have with the former ally, their power level, your power level, and the temperment of the tributary (reliable/unreliable, aggressive/cautious, etc.)

The same was the way with me defeating the Caledonians; they had an army outside the city, but in that case, I would technically have defeated them as well. What I meant was that the Ebdanians still had armies further off that I had not destroyed, which still stood as an enemy after I took their final settlement.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Originally posted by Wolf Surge:

Originally posted by Mile pro Libertate:

Simply capture their last town, and to the far right (after "Sack"), you'll see the option to Subjugate.



You do not have to destroy all of their armies. I have made factions into tributaries with 2 of their stacks camped right outside their town.

If you can ask the faction to become a tributary in the diplomacy screen, them you can do it by taking their last settlement.



It depends on what kind of relations they have with you, the relations they have with the former ally, their power level, your power level, and the temperment of the tributary (reliable/unreliable, aggressive/cautious, etc.)

The same was the way with me defeating the Caledonians; they had an army outside the city, but in that case, I would technically have defeated them as well. What I meant was that the Ebdanians still had armies further off that I had not destroyed, which still stood as an enemy after I took their final settlement.

That shouldn't have stopped the tributary from forming.

I made Langobards into a tributary recently and they had a 20 stack that was undefeated outside the town, and their king with 11 or so units was in an an adjacent province. Regardless, when that last town was taken Iwas given the option to make them a tributary.

I did the same thing to Angles: I took their town in a night attack so their two stacks couldnt reinforce, and then the tributary option popped up.

If you weren't given the option with Ebdanians, all I can think is either you have some mod ebabled that is changing the diplomatic options, or they still owned another region that you were unaware of: this last region may have been taken by another faction during the turn phase, which resulted in you starting your turn seeing Ebdanians as having ceased to exist, but not having been given the choice to make them tributary when you took the town.

PS: Also, Attila is not like earlier games where factions disappear when they have no towns left. If a faction loses all of its towns, they either retain their armies (under attrition), or they become hordes.