WRE: Legio vs. Palatina ?

[SturmWerwolf]

So I'm a little confused as these seem to overlap a bit, which one is better to go with for a Western Roman Empire campaign ? The main difference seems to be in abilities, Legio has Stationary Testudo + Missle Weapons, while Palatina has Mobile Testudo + Shield Wall.

[NeverOdd]

I find legios work well on the defence, and palatinas work well on the offence.

[Hat8]

Rome has pretty terrible infantry. They lack a charge but have good armor. Basically, your infantry is cheap meatshields and it should be your cavalry/crossbows who do all of the killing.

[[AJSA]MeloDeath]

^this wre inf is ♥♥♥♥ for some reason-.-

[RIP Chicken]

What I do is have legio up front and a line of palatina behind them with shield wall ready. When the enemy gets close legio throw their javs and then I retreat them behind palatina to take the brunt of the charge. After that I reinforce the palatina line with the legio. It's a little complicated so I don't do it all the time.

Plus the AI cav is prone to suicide charge a main line of swords so if your legio is retreating at the same time or even at the front then that can ♥♥♥♥ everything up.

Another way you can do it is use the legio as a flanking force while your palatina are the main line but that requires a ton of micro management and idk cavalry just do a better job of that.. unless your enemy has tons of spears which they always do.

[Hat8]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AJSAMeloDeath:

^this wre inf is ♥♥♥♥ for some reason-.-

It's a bit ahistorical. Roman Infantry was excellent right up to the very end.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hat21:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von AJSAMeloDeath:

^this wre inf is ♥♥♥♥ for some reason-.-

It's a bit ahistorical. Roman Infantry was excellent right up to the very end.

Agreed. CA nerfed then for balancing reasons no doubt.

At least they gave some Roman units shieldwall at last...for the first few months after release Romans had no shieldwall and spaghetti lines dominated all the fights. 😒

[Raider Deci]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mile pro Libertate:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hat21:

It's a bit ahistorical. Roman Infantry was excellent right up to the very end.

Agreed. CA nerfed then for balancing reasons no doubt.

At least they gave some Roman units shieldwall at last...for the first few months after release Romans had no shieldwall and spaghetti lines dominated all the fights. 😒

There was some issues with high-tier cav going straight through expensive roman units like they wasnt there. With shieldwall there is atleast something

[RIP Chicken]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deci:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mile pro Libertate:

Agreed. CA nerfed then for balancing reasons no doubt.

At least they gave some Roman units shieldwall at last...for the first few months after release Romans had no shieldwall and spaghetti lines dominated all the fights. 😒

There was some issues with high-tier cav going straight through expensive roman units like they wasnt there. With shieldwall there is atleast something

That still happens all the time to me when I play as a roman faction and AI cav love to suicide.

[Mile pro Libertate]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Acclaim:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deci:

There was some issues with high-tier cav going straight through expensive roman units like they wasnt there. With shieldwall there is atleast something

That still happens all the time to me when I play as a roman faction and AI cav love to suicide.

lol yeah.

It's one of the reasons I think people don't play Attila online. Cav are too powerful against even well formed infantry.

Still, just like with the spaghetti lines, it's not nearly as bad as it was the first 3 or 4 months after release: Romans in stationary testudo will actually stop a cav charge fairly reliably.

They also added more "unit mass" for adding more ranks beyond 2 or 3, which makes deep formations have some utility now.

But yeah, overall the cav are a little op imo. I can understand Contarii or something being very powerful, but the Hunnic cav doesn't make any sense beyond the idea of "oh the game is about Attila so the Huns need to be really strong and scaree!!$#!" :D

[Metadragon]

Palatina. The sooner you get seniores the better