Sun Elves have the exact same racial bonuses as Moon Elves

[Aetrion]

What's up with that? Shouldn't Sun Elves have different bonuses? If I'm not mistaken they should have +2 Intelligence, rather than +2 Dexterity.

This game seems like a lot of it isn't quite fully figured out yet.

[Aurgus]

High Elf
As a high elf, you have a keen mind and a mastery of
at least the basics o f magic. In many o f the worlds
o f D&D, there are two kinds of high elves. One type
(which includes the gray elves and valley elves of
Greyhawk, the Silvanesti of Dragonlance, and the
sun elves o f the Forgotten Realms) is haughty and
reclusive, believing themselves to be superior to
non-elves and even other elves. The other type
(including the high elves o f Greyhawk. the
Qualinesti o f Dragonlance, and the moon elves
o f the Forgotten Realms) are more common
and m ore friendly, and often encountered
among humans and other races.
The sun elves o f Faerun (also called gold
elves or sunrise elves) have bronze skin and
hair of copper, black, or golden blond. Their
eyes are golden, silver, or black. Moon elves (also
called silver elves or gray elves) are much paler,
with alabaster skin sometimes tinged with blue.
They often have hair o f silver-white, black, or blue,
but various shades o f blond, brown, and red are
not uncommon. Their eyes are blue or green and
flecked with gold.

[windezz]

You sir, should aspire to be a politician, for you've shown great aptitude in such profession by posting that response. It's a blatant and effortless copy/paste with the awkward format intact, possesses overwhelming amount of text with next to no substance, and completely misses the point of the original inquiry.

Incredible! Bravo!

[Aurgus]

If you read what it says, it clearly states that both Moon Elves and Sun Elves are the samething. Now if you're smart, you would then think they both have the same BONUS because they are considerd the SAME race.

PS~ I left it in that format so that it was clearly a cut and paste. I'm glade you caught it.

[Aetrion]

It still doesn't make any sense to have two sub races with exactly the same bonuses, especially when so far in every setting the Sun Elf was the racial option for players who wanted to make magic heavy elves with a better int than dex bonus.

[Aurgus]

So its an RP thing only I guess. Its "based" on 5th edition and thats how it is there. Write a letter to WotC maybe they will change it for you.

[Aetrion]

Like this game sticks exactly to the 5th edition rules in any other way. Those animal summoning wizards sure are mighty accurate.

For the sake of balance it'd make sense to have one elf race with +2 dex +1 int and one with +2 int +1 dex. That way there would be a reason to make an Elf wizard.

[Aurgus]

I never said you where wrong. It's just very funny to hear someone bring something up from SCL that follows 5th edition (when so many say its not D&D) and still hear complaints about it.

[Bradge]

Yes, it is a 5th edition idiosyncrasy.

[windezz]

Oh yeah, excuse me for reading a lazy copy/paste on lore and not equating that to a question regarding mechanics. Sorry, should've done more work and check the actual entry in its entirety than some sloppy handiwork.

Looks like they still didn't quite follow 5E even on something as simple as racial traits. Guess there's only so much you can do for an aRPG.

[AshLancer]

The difference is you get to role play a snooty educated elf over a common dumb elf.

[Bradge]

Originally posted by windezz:

Looks like they still didn't quite follow 5E even on something as simple as racial traits. Guess there's only so much you can do for an aRPG.

Not at all in this case. In 5th edition, the Forgotten Realms races of Sun Elf and Moon Elf are both considered the same race: High Elf. So the racial attributes are not a mistake. They're the same in 5th edition.

http://hackslashmaster.blogspot.com/2014/08/on-forgotten-realms-in-5th-edition.html

[Aetrion]

Well, I guess this begs one fundamental question: Are the natural stats a character can have in SCL capped at 20 like they are in 5E? The reason why 5E can get away with elves that start with 15 intelligence is because there is a cap that eventually lets any race/class combination get to the best possible bonus from natural stats, unlike in, let's say 3.5 or Pathfinder where if you didn't start the game with 20 in your casting stat you were simply always going to be behind.

[windezz]

Originally posted by Bradge:

Originally posted by windezz:

Looks like they still didn't quite follow 5E even on something as simple as racial traits. Guess there's only so much you can do for an aRPG.

Not at all in this case. In 5th edition, the Forgotten Realms races of Sun Elf and Moon Elf are both considered the same race: High Elf. So the racial attributes are not a mistake. They're the same in 5th edition.

http://hackslashmaster.blogspot.com/2014/08/on-forgotten-realms-in-5th-edition.html

Uh...did you play the game, or at least tried to create an elf? Racial traits like darkvision and extra cantrip for high elves never made it in because the game either neglected some aspects of what it's supposed to cover, or couldn't because of its primitive, console-ready approach to combat.

Nevermind the more RP-ish things like language, the game doesn't even bother to remind you of your character's alignment or deity after you get past the character creation... I'm 26 hours into the game, it's fun as long as you ignore the part where it cherry-picks some rules from 5E and claims to be entirely it.

[Bradge]

Originally posted by windezz:

Originally posted by Bradge:

Not at all in this case. In 5th edition, the Forgotten Realms races of Sun Elf and Moon Elf are both considered the same race: High Elf. So the racial attributes are not a mistake. They're the same in 5th edition.

http://hackslashmaster.blogspot.com/2014/08/on-forgotten-realms-in-5th-edition.html

Uh...did you play the game, or at least tried to create an elf?

This thread was about racial attributes. I made the mistake of assuming you were on topic when you complained about the game's fidelity to racial traits. At least in racial attributes, the game was faithful to 5th edition.

As far as pen-and-paper tabletop D&D, I've played 2nd, 3rd and 3.5 editions. I have not played 4th or 5th edition. I've also played Pathfinder and many other tabletop RPG systems. My current favorite is Cubicle 7's "The One Ring" tabletop RPG.

[windezz]

Originally posted by Bradge:

This thread was about racial attributes. I made the mistake of assuming you were on topic when you complained about the game's fidelity to racial traits. At least in racial attributes, the game was faithful to 5th edition.

As far as pen-and-paper tabletop D&D, I've played 2nd, 3rd and 3.5 editions. I have not played 4th or 5th edition. I've also played Pathfinder and many other tabletop RPG systems. My current favorite is Cubicle 7's "The One Ring" tabletop RPG.

Wait, did you just say that the game was faithful to 5E in the elf racial traits while quoting my response that the game failed to include things like darkvision and extra cantrip due to its limited implementation? Really?

Good credential, I guess? Not sure how that's relevant to anything in the thread, but whatever you think that empowers your reasoning...