Buy This Instead

[Char Aznable]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/576770/Low_Magic_Age/

This is an indie game called Low Magic Age. Weird name I know, but it is actually based on the d20 combat system and is closer to it than any other game I know. It's still in very early access and the Adventure mode is not out yet, but the Arena mode is a lot of fun. They still need to add most of the classes and some spells but what they got so far is great.

It's about the same price as Sword Coast Legends, and lets be honest... There's no reason to give Digital Extremes anymore money over this since N-Space, the developers of Sword Coast Legends, have went bankrupt and no longer support this game with any updates or patches, and it is full of game breaking bugs and broken quest lines. Your money would be better off spent supporting the ongoing development of an actually faithful D&D game.

If you check out their forum, and the reviews, you will see the dev is INCREDIBLY responsive to people's suggestions and criticism. Unlike the devs for SCL who just hired shills to ban people, delete posts, and hide reviews from the public for dubious reasons. N-Space claimed to be D&D fans developing a D&D game for D&D fans, but in reality they were developing it for their 8 year old son, so instead of Vancian magic and an immersive DM kit we got skill trees with cooldowns and a random dungeon generator.

Low Magic Age's dev is the complete opposite, he is trying to make the most faithful D&D game ever, with very limited resources. He's not backed by some multibillion dollar Chinese holding company based in the Cayman islands like N-Space was. He's not beholden to deadlines and he hasn't signed his soul away to some publishing company. He's just a normal guy like me and you who loves D&D and wants to make an actually good D&D game. So please, try it out. Give this guy your money. Unlike N-Space he deserves it.

[Dorok]

it's just a very incomplete Early Access, no campaign at all, just combat arena. It's nice to quote but the problem is the number of years before release. I doubt the dev has any clue about the complexity of making a video game RpG campaign.


What I mean is your comparison makes non sense. One doesn't replace at all the other.

[Char Aznable]

Originally posted by Dorok:

it's just a very incomplete Early Access, no campaign at all, just combat arena. It's nice to quote but the problem is the number of years before release. I doubt the dev has any clue about the complexity of making a video game RpG campaign.


What I mean is your comparison makes non sense. One doesn't replace at all the other.

Would you rather the dev be rushed to release a buggy, incomplete game by a heartless publishing company and then made to hide a third of the content behind extra pay gates? Because that is what Sword Coast Legends essentially did, and it made N-Space go bankrupt. I would rather them spend another 2-3 years adding content to and polishing this game than hurry up and release a broken mess. Low Magic Age is a labor of love, and I expect to see great things from it in the future, however distant that may be. That said, I got my party up to level 10 in the arena mode so far, having a blast!

[Dorok]

To each their own, I had a very good fun to play campaign, no way an arena combat game can match that, buggy, I don't remind that, start a new play to see how it was working and no bug.

Your thread is non sense, you hate SCL, your problem, but suggest an unfinished Early Access is absurd.

[Char Aznable]

I played Sword Coast Legends in early access and predicted everything that would happen in its development to the smallest detail way before it released. I don't hate SCL. I'm just disappointed in it. I do hate the people who own the people who owned the devs, to a degree. But I respect them, they've made a lot of money off of people like you. More than I'll ever make working an honest job. All I want is a quality D&D game, and right now Low Magic Age is delivering more than SCL ever did. And unlike SCL Low Magic Age will continue to grow. This game has been abandoned. I'm just trying to shed light on the most viable alternative out there at the moment for people who can't run Divinity Original Sin 2 on their PC's. What is your goal in defending an unfinished buggy piece of abandonware other than to further your own delusions and justify your poor taste?

[Space Hamster Family]

Even before Headstart, you were bashing the game. As you have done nonstop for the past 2 years. I just done get you????
I have a copy of your first post here dated pre headstart and even before you played the game, same old song and dance, i just dont get you....
"Aug 25, 2015 @ 5:44pm
WARNING to fellow D&D enthusiasts thinking this will be D&D.
It won't be. I've played Neverwinter and D&D Online and let me tell you what this is all about. Money. This thread will probably be locked and I'll probably be banned from posting here for telling you all this, because these people do not care about simulating the D&D experience online. They just want to make money off the brand name.

I beta tested Neverwinter Online, we were promised a Foundry to create our own content which was not supported and pretty much broken by the devs. We were only given five classes, sound familiar? It took over a year after release for them to include the Ranger and another year to be able to play a wizard that didn't only use ice spells. Now you can also play a wizard that only uses fire spells. No Druid to be heard of. Oh, and don't forget about cash shops and pay-gating content already in the game at release. You can look at the description of the game and see Dungeon Masters can only use the Beholder if they buy the "digital deluxe" edition.

By the way, I already learned from another thread on here that the dungeons you "create" aren't actually made tile by tile but are randomly generated, so I kind of fail to see the point in it. We already have random dungeon generators like Diablo, why did we even need this game? That's right, we don't. It will be another cheap cash-shop MMO only with the classic overhead CRPG view like in Baldur's Gate. Spiritual successors to Diablo and Baldur's Gate already exist in the forms of Path of Exile and Pillars of Eternity.

To top it all off this game is developed by a game company that either ports games from older consoles or makes games based on kid movies/shows like Toy Story or Winx Club. They literally have zero experience making original hit games, everything they've done is a port or a flagrant use of someone else's IP to make money off of shovelware. Just look at the Wiki for them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Space

To summarize:

Cash shop
Pay gated content
Same gameplay as other popular RPG's released this year.
Bland outdated uninspired graphics and artwork.
False advertising in regards to creating your own dungeons.
Cheap devs looking to cash in on any IP or brand they can get their hands on.


Dungeon and Dragons has a history of making bad games. Yeah, some of the older CRPG's like Baldur's Gate were amazing and ahead of their time, but Bioware is no longer making their games. It has been decades since we've gotten a good D&D game, and even those games fail to emulate the true D&D experience. I recommend you just find a Dungeon Master who is already versed in an older system and play that. Don't bother with 5th and I only play 4th because I have the books. 3rd or older is the way to go. I'm currently writing my own set of D&D rules that will be closer to the original than these modern iterations. I love Dungeons and Dragons but I hate Wizards of the Coast and the shoddy devs they keep hiring to make the video games for cheapening the brand name."""

[Char Aznable]

Thank you for reposting that. Sure brings back memories.

[astarr]

Originally posted by Zechs:

I played Sword Coast Legends in early access and predicted everything.

Lotto numbers please.

[jimbobslimbob]

Naaa, buy this instead:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/704450/Neverwinter_Nights_Enhanced_Edition/
or even this
http://store.steampowered.com/app/435150/Divinity_Original_Sin_2/

[Char Aznable]

Originally posted by astarr:

Originally posted by Zechs:

I played Sword Coast Legends in early access and predicted everything.

Lotto numbers please.

56565656

[Lampros]

Originally posted by jimbobslimbob:

Naaa, buy this instead:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/704450/Neverwinter_Nights_Enhanced_Edition/

Does the Neverwinter Nights "Enhanced Edition" actually add anything new?

[astarr]

GOG has the Diamond Edition. I was lucky to get it for free during a promotion last year. I think the diamond has all of the expansions included, so the EE will be that plus "all new enchanced features"

Read it anyhow.

[Balkoth]

This game is no longer going to be on sale after this month. If you want a decent Dungeon Siege-esque game, this works and is cheap.

Although if you can get Divinity: Original Sin 2, get that FO SHO

[falloutdude83]

Originally posted by jimbobslimbob:

Naaa, buy this instead:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/704450/Neverwinter_Nights_Enhanced_Edition/

OMG, just look at all the DLC. Why are the expansions not included to the EE in the first place like Beamdog did with all other EE?

[jimbobslimbob]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Does the Neverwinter Nights "Enhanced Edition" actually add anything new?

It's currently in very early stages and they have a lot planned. I have been trying to gather together as much information on it as I can. Check out this post:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/704450/discussions/0/1488866180592209140/

They have 2 Trello boards up (links in the post) as well, for planned features.

[Peter B]

Originally posted by Zechs:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/576770/Low_Magic_Age/

This is an indie game called Low Magic Age. Weird name I know, but it is actually based on the d20 combat system and is closer to it than any other game I know. It's still in very early access and the Adventure mode is not out yet, but the Arena mode is a lot of fun. They still need to add most of the classes and some spells but what they got so far is great.

It's about the same price as Sword Coast Legends, and lets be honest... There's no reason to give Digital Extremes anymore money over this since N-Space, the developers of Sword Coast Legends, have went bankrupt and no longer support this game with any updates or patches, and it is full of game breaking bugs and broken quest lines. Your money would be better off spent supporting the ongoing development of an actually faithful D&D game.

If you check out their forum, and the reviews, you will see the dev is INCREDIBLY responsive to people's suggestions and criticism. Unlike the devs for SCL who just hired shills to ban people, delete posts, and hide reviews from the public for dubious reasons. N-Space claimed to be D&D fans developing a D&D game for D&D fans, but in reality they were developing it for their 8 year old son, so instead of Vancian magic and an immersive DM kit we got skill trees with cooldowns and a random dungeon generator.

Low Magic Age's dev is the complete opposite, he is trying to make the most faithful D&D game ever, with very limited resources. He's not backed by some multibillion dollar Chinese holding company based in the Cayman islands like N-Space was. He's not beholden to deadlines and he hasn't signed his soul away to some publishing company. He's just a normal guy like me and you who loves D&D and wants to make an actually good D&D game. So please, try it out. Give this guy your money. Unlike N-Space he deserves it.

Thanks for the tip. The combat was actually really fun.