When will Toxikk II ?

[Anub1ss]

Hello,

some of you may know me from the past when I actively played Toxikk. I wonder if we'll see Toxikk II? it's time to revive the Areana FPS genre. Especially after Epic killed all Unreal Tournament games, there was room for a big game of this type of Arena FPS with Movement Unreal and Toxikk. Toxikk developers are still relatively active in discussions, for example they can provide us with direct information on when we will see a successor

[Sharkster]

There will be no Toxikk 2 for obvious reasons.

We're fans of the AFPS genre and the idea of reviving it. That's why we did Toxikk and made it the best game we could. But we have to face the reality that AFPS is dead.

This simple truth is the reason why UT4 was aborted and also why every AFPS game since the old days has failed (despite some gems).

But we'll soon™ announce a new (non-AFPS) title.

[Anub1ss]

Originally posted by Sharkster:

There will be no Toxikk 2 for obvious reasons.

We're fans of the AFPS genre and the idea of reviving it. That's why we did Toxikk and made it the best game we could. But we have to face the reality that AFPS is dead.

This simple truth is the reason why UT4 was aborted and also why every AFPS game since the old days has failed (despite some gems).

But we'll soon™ announce a new (non-AFPS) title.

Toxikk is great, but unfortunately the game struggled from the beginning with a low number of players and the long time of the game in early access.

Me remember when I was running around the arenas in ESL battles, maybe it would be nice to at least partially revive the original Toxikk with some kind of tournament?


Even so, I think AFPS is not dead and there is more room for this concept than years ago. maybe make it special in the form of wards, battlepass, skins and other nonsense.

[AFreakinProblem]

Originally posted by Sharkster:

There will be no Toxikk 2 for obvious reasons.

We're fans of the AFPS genre and the idea of reviving it. That's why we did Toxikk and made it the best game we could. But we have to face the reality that AFPS is dead.

This simple truth is the reason why UT4 was aborted and also why every AFPS game since the old days has failed (despite some gems).

But we'll soon™ announce a new (non-AFPS) title.

I'm still rather furious about what has happened to arena FPS. The whole Nexuiz/Xonotic controversies (Illfonic buying the name, early Xonotic balance and physics issues that divided the playerbase, etc.) were bad, but not as bad as what Epic did as far as killing arena FPS is concerned. That was all but intentional once they saw how successful battle royale in Fortnite was as they added things to UT4 the community specifically said they didn't want and then used that as an excuse to kill the game not to mention delisting all of the Unreal games years later. Much like Xonotic was a successor to Nexuiz, Toxikk very much was a successor to Unreal Tournament 2004 (albeit a spiritual one) and had some awesome moments if you could ever find anyone online. Maybe it was being in early access for a little too long or maybe it was lack of marketing or even the instant gratification crap Call of Duty kids are hooked on nowadays, but for whatever reason this game didn't hit the audience it deserved. One can only hope that this game somehow gets revived or someone else steps up to resurrect these kinds of games for a new generation to play.

[PsyKot1k]

I dont think AFPS is dead, just isnt a top notch new game out to play. Quake Champions came out and it was terrible all around, and still is. Then most people tried newer games and stuck with them i have to assume like i did playing Apex, and random games that come out. i tried this game a few times and i didn't care for it that much. OW2 is still pretty popular and it's quite similar to AFPS just without item pickups. That and people play the ♥♥♥♥ out of Apex TDM, and Valorant deathmatch.

[sks]

Originally posted by Sharkster:

There will be no Toxikk 2 for obvious reasons.

We're fans of the AFPS genre and the idea of reviving it. That's why we did Toxikk and made it the best game we could. But we have to face the reality that AFPS is dead.

This simple truth is the reason why UT4 was aborted and also why every AFPS game since the old days has failed (despite some gems).

But we'll soon™ announce a new (non-AFPS) title.

ToxikkFortress 2

[Laser Pickle]

Originally posted by Sharkster:

There will be no Toxikk 2 for obvious reasons.

We're fans of the AFPS genre and the idea of reviving it. That's why we did Toxikk and made it the best game we could. But we have to face the reality that AFPS is dead.

This simple truth is the reason why UT4 was aborted and also why every AFPS game since the old days has failed (despite some gems).

But we'll soon™ announce a new (non-AFPS) title.

As long as you allow the next game to be playable offline with bots then I'll give it a try. I only play offline with bots.

[NinPho]

Originally posted by Sharkster:

There will be no Toxikk 2 for obvious reasons.

We're fans of the AFPS genre and the idea of reviving it. That's why we did Toxikk and made it the best game we could. But we have to face the reality that AFPS is dead.

This simple truth is the reason why UT4 was aborted and also why every AFPS game since the old days has failed (despite some gems).

But we'll soon™ announce a new (non-AFPS) title.

Dude the game died because you put in Skill base matchmaking where better players could not ever play bad players for the skill class. The new player will not understand what the heck that even is or understand how the player base is segregated by servers that have it on, and off.

UT4 got cancelled because Fortnite save the world sucked ass and Fortnite battle royale saved that company and diverted all resources to that single Mod.

[Grossmeister B]

I love AFPS, but Sharkster ist right, the genre is dead, teens these days play bubblegum shooters like Fortnite or Overwatch. AFPS are too frustrating to them, also younger people are used to get "rewards", loot and costumes every 10 seconds otherwise they loose interest very quickly.

Toxikk is probably the best UT game we ever get! I believe its almost flawless and still young people rather watch TikTok and get depression in their 20s or roll their dices in Fartnite than play a competitive AFPS. We turned the people into consumers, nobody is searching or working for fun anymore, you must handle it to them in a nice package which they can pay later for.

[Zunbreakable1]

I played UT many years ago and had to give it up because I was so addicted I couldn't get my work done! Now I'm retired and want to play! I found TOXIKK and love it, but nobody plays and for some reason, the NY servers must have been taken offline. How many here are still willing to play?

[.GZR]

At this point I'd wait for a UE5 engine overhaul

[rockit]

Originally posted by .Girz0r:

At this point I'd wait for a UE5 engine overhaul :UT2004flak:

Toxikk runs on UE3. UE3 uses Phong shader model and converting its textures to UE4/5 PBR shading model is fairly time consuming/labour-intensive. For every single shader, you'd have to pretty much recreate all of its texture maps from the ground-up -- the only easily "transferable" map type would be normal maps, assuming that you'll have an access to the uncompressed source maps.

And considering that the game is dead for nearly a decade now, I don't think that even a highly dedicated modding team would bother to undertake such a Sisyphean task.

[SlenderKnirpZ]

Originally posted by Diabotical Rogue EVO:

Originally posted by Sharkster:

There will be no Toxikk 2 for obvious reasons.

We're fans of the AFPS genre and the idea of reviving it. That's why we did Toxikk and made it the best game we could. But we have to face the reality that AFPS is dead.

This simple truth is the reason why UT4 was aborted and also why every AFPS game since the old days has failed (despite some gems).

But we'll soon™ announce a new (non-AFPS) title.

ToxikkFortress 2

AFPS will never die!

[nAnXiety]

I have to agree the skill based match making is what killed the game.