So who agrees that Kotor 2 is better than kotor 1?

[Chromie]

The plot is also something truly different and great. The whole wound in the force, the jedi near extinction and "dead" Sith attacking from behind the scenes it was a Star Wars game like no other. The Jedi weren't the oh so perfect good guys they were broken, scared and on the run. We see how the Exile had affected everyone during the trial with each of them scared of the Exile's ability to live with out the force and best of all you see Jedi Master's starting to no longer believe in the Jedi Code and for the first time in since greast Schism question their beliefs. Now what was so great about Kotor 1 story?

Obsidian took the Sith and changed them from the obvious evil that Darth Malak was. I agree with Goto here, Malak was obvious, boring and didn't have much of a plan but Revan was smart, calculating and true Jedi/Dark Lord who had truly experience both sides of the Force. Obsidian made Revan awesome while Bioware made him so generic. Obsidian also did a great job at making the Sith into more sinister and actually feel dark. The Sith Triumvirate are much more nefarious then anything Bioware could possibly write. Traya the Betrayer was so incredibly well written. I was genuinely surprised at what happened on my second visit to Dantooine. Sion showed us what the Dark Side is capable of and how it can take it's toll on the body. Nihilus showed how the hunger for power can destroy someone he would find and feed on worlds filled with force sensitives such as Katarr when the Jedi Masters came.

Gameplay wise Obsidian added force stances, combat stances, prestige classes, unlockable abilites, better crafting and my favorite the influence system. The influence system added so much to the game I loved learned about Atton's past or how Kriea had once thought Revan or the Enchani way of life and how the Handmaiden was different from her sisters. The influence system was something Bioware should have had in Mass Effect 2 instead of the cop out with the loyalty missions.

I could takl about Kotor 2 all day but yea there you go.

[Finnway]

I think KOTOR 1 is a better game overall. KOTOR 2 fills a niche by delving into the lore more.

KOTOR 1's story is classic, and feels much more like StarWars. KOTOR 2's side-character's are kind of dumb and their stories are left unfinished.
Skills in KOTOR 2 aren't as useful as they are in KOTOR 1. I think playing a combat oriented class is always better in KOTOR 2.

A complaint about both KOTOR games is that Darkside choices make your character look pathetic, and playing Neutral-Force is never a legitimate option.

They're both good games, and both are worth playing. It's just a shame that KOTOR 2 was forced to release early and we didn't get to see everything the developers had planned.

[MalumAnima]

to be honest i hated kotor2 because it had weaker characters, overly complex and convoluted story, less costomization with your character (in terms of story), and way way waaaay to much foreshadowing in the narrative (i REALLY wanted to stab Kreia in the face after the first of these scenes... but never could. In my opinion kotor1 is far superior.

[SLTracker]

ill have to play kotor2 i loved kotor 10 years ago

[wb98]

Автор сообщения: PlayerZer0

Is the restoration mod for Kotor2 worth the effort playing the game again?

If you want to visit the HK-50 factory and have HK-47 say, "Please shoot me in my soft meatbag underbelly reapetdly until I die."

[DeathClaw]

KOTOR 1 was the best. KOTOR 2 didn't really allow you to get into your Follower's back stories like the first game did. The ending wasn't really good unless you played as a Good Jedi and have a great imagination. I would have love to have a 3rd game in the series instead of that disaster of an MMO they made.

[MrsPurdyDixon]

I like both but find myself wanting to play KOTOR II more then I.

[Pancakekitty]

What? The ending in Kotor 2 was horrible. There were so many loose ends it wasn't even funny. Yes - The gameplay was better, but the story was very, very unfinished. Seriously - The ending didn't even make a lick of sense. The Ebon Hawk, supposedly disabled, suddenly rises up out of a chasm to rescue the exile? After Kreia said something about taking a ship from orbit? What?

The only thing Kotor II had on Kotor I was the gameplay improvements. Don't get me started on that restoration mod, thats all it is - A mod. Kotor II on its own is nothing compared to Kotor I.

Also, the Exile isn't a random person. The Exile was actually canon - Bookwise, atleast.

[Krillian]

I loved the first one, I do not think I like the second, but I have yet to finish it

[Ragnarök]

The TSL Restored Content Mod was hardly just a mod. The content within it was officially developed by Obsidian but cut purley because of time constraints. The files were all still present within the game but disabled, even down to the voice-over work. It has been restored to where it belongs.

[Aedhrus]

The second was released "unfinished", but it had one awsome perk.
Kreia.

[BreeZe™]

In terms of gameplay the sequal is better, considering its just an expansion really. In terms of story and immersion? The original title is so unique and better by miles, KOTOR2 falls short in many ways to the original, but both are greatly enjoyable.

[Chromie]

Автор сообщения: BreeZe™

In terms of gameplay the sequal is better, considering its just an expansion really. In terms of story and immersion? The original title is so unique and better by miles, KOTOR2 falls short in many ways to the original, but both are greatly enjoyable.

Lol uinque. Okay.

[Legio V Alaudae]

I prefer KOTOR 1 in everyway, KOTOR 2 could be as good as 1 but it is a game uncompleted which was made in a hurry.

[La Mariposa]

How can people possibly say that characters are better in KOTOR 1 than KOTOR 2? I find that Kreya alone bests all of the KOTOR 1 characters combined in terms of depth and characterization. And hell Darth Revan has more character depth in KOTOR 2 and hes not even directly featured in KOTOR 2.

[Darth Cannabis]

Автор сообщения: Bukkakechan

How can people possibly say that characters are better in KOTOR 1 than KOTOR 2? I find that Kreya alone bests all of the KOTOR 1 characters combined in terms of depth and characterization. And hell Darth Revan has more character depth in KOTOR 2 and hes not even directly featured in KOTOR 2.

Yeah its hard to say characters lack depth in 2, Especially if you've ever taken the long about routes of getting Mira, then going dark and corrupting her, or the opposite of getting Hanarr, then going light and curing his madness.
After exploring truly everything with the secondary characters, I find my self more engrossed with 2's than 1's. The only fault I have with it is the ending.
Also the repeating characters were more interesting in 2 than 1 (at least in the case of HK-47).
Also anyone else think that T3-M4 thinks he is the star of the series?

Storywise I like both of them about the same. I feel the early parts of 1, (the whole ship emergency beginning and the whole 1st part of Taris), generally suck, and the game really fails to pick up until the undercity. It then gets better from there and the story engrosses you (especially if you develop the love story with Bastilla). This all culimnates in a rather great ending.

2, does a much better job I feel at the start, with the whole mining station mystery start, and then the story does well exploring a world preparing for your great confrontation with multiple sith lords. The problem is that after becoming so so powerful and vanquishing these foes, the final end just becomes something you can fail to care about. In nearly every other aspect thou it surpasses the 1st game. Addition of force forms, a huge plus, additional powers, prestige classes, more influence and secondary character development (to point of unlocking force potential in them), even the crafting and combat is better.