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KaptenRinkside has Vagante

Jun 17, 2015 @ 4:27am

Cheating

I think most people can agree with me that cheating isn't fun.
Especially when there are online leaderboards or any other form of competition.

I was wondering how you, the developers, are going to tackle the issue of cheaters and ensure a pleasant experience for those who are interested in online leaderboards and challenges.
Because there will be cheaters.

I know that Vagante currently is in alpha and that this issue might not be important right now.

With that said. I'm a person who don't like playing with cheats, however, I do enjoy programming and hacking/breaking so I spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to figure out if it was possible to modify, hack or cheat the game in any way. Just to see if I could.
And it's totally possible to do. I do not wish to be specific about how to do so or to what extent it's possible to cheat, because I don't want cheating to be a thing really.
But I want to mention that it's possible to completely break the game.

And it's because of this possibility that I would like to know what your thoughts are about it.

Tested in version 21b running on Linux using wine.
I will not reply to any questions about specifics unless asked by a developer.

I would like to know what the community thinks about cheating though so please leave a reply if you have any input.

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ekun📯 [developer] Jun 17, 2015 @ 12:58pm

Since Vagante isn't a competetive game, we aren't concerned about players cheating at all.

Although this may change if we add any kind of competitive aspect like a highscore table, it isn't something we're worried about at the moment.

Inkh인수

Jun 19, 2015 @ 4:53am

.. And as a hacker, I'm sure you already know that the only way that they could prevent cheating would be to host games on their servers ..

Which would cost more money.
And require more serious work on net code.
Which also costs more money.

Otherwise .. It's client-side brah .. Once the program is on the client-side it's hackable.

It's probably going to just be P2P game with a public host for joining players together.
If anyone hacks their game, that's their own perogative.
It either ruins or makes the game more enjoyable for those people.

If this was an MMO, it'd be different, but it's not.

KaptenRinkside has Vagante

Jun 22, 2015 @ 2:01am

Well, if any competetive aspect will be added. Let's say daily challanges and leaderboards, as mentioned on their website.
It's not a question of preventing hacking rather than detecting it. If there would be some kind of detection if a run has been tampered with the score could just be illegitimate and not posted to any scoreboards or such.

Making hacking harder on client side would pretty much be pointless as it would only make it harder for people who enjoy cheating to do so.

Although I've already got the answer I wanted from the devs, but thanks for your input on things.

Avalon

Sep 16, 2017 @ 3:36pm

Well I don't really want any kind of leaderboard. Vagante isn't just a game of who can make the most points. When i bought Vagante i looked at it as RPG that could change my Life. Recently it is by far one of the best RPG that i have ever seen. That is i think the way it should be. A Hard/Darksouls Rouge Like RPG with a lot of Adventuring.

And could i make a wish for a next update ? I would really want to see a story at thr beginning of the game. " Many people knew about a cave in the distance of the mountans where a true Adventurer could finde the greatest treasure in the whole land. Many adventurers went exploring the cave but all of them never came back alive. Years past and a new group of travelers went to the cave to explore. You are one of them. Do have what it takes to be ? Are you beware of the great dangers in there ? Then take you sword, grab you arrows and show them that you have what it takes to be a great adventurer. Good luck, fellow travel may the light be with you !"