Celestian Tales: Old North

Celestian Tales: Old North

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Ragnarök sprites
Is it only me or are they using slighty modified Ragnarök sprites and animation?
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Timeraider Aug 9, 2015 @ 10:48am 
Cant really say i see much resemblence.. color pallet is alot brighter, proportions of the sprites are quite a bit different, the animation in ragnarok are alot more subtile but also at least twice as fast and both the graphics and animation are really obviously made for 2.5D and alot more ...well.. the computermade feel instead of hannddrawn.

Might yust be me though who finds these games graphically to different. Maybe they did get some inspiration from raganrok.. who knows. All i can say is that everything in this game is nicely drawn/created for this game, no pre-made stuff/assets as far as i could see really.
Last edited by Timeraider; Aug 9, 2015 @ 2:44pm
Just watch some footage of the battles, the monsters are the same. Exactly the same monsters you can find in Ragnarök. I mean, you played RO, right?
Timeraider Aug 9, 2015 @ 11:36am 
Guess im blind... cant say i find these sprites to be to close to any of RO.. not to mention the quality being at least 3 times the quality of those in RO. Ofcourse that doesnt mean youre not correct, just means the differences i see would indicate to me that they have different creators, nothing more. There ofcourse are always somesmall similarities if you work with the same graphical style but nothing that suggests blatant copying.
Last edited by Timeraider; Aug 9, 2015 @ 1:25pm
Alena Aug 9, 2015 @ 12:49pm 
You are actually right, I just looked at the first trailer and, just as an example, the hairstyle of the king is an exact hairstyle from RO. (Its obviously more blurry, but it is the same.)
http://i59.tinypic.com/2d8koqu.jpg
(just zoom in a little)
Last edited by Alena; Aug 9, 2015 @ 12:54pm
ShaDoW Aug 9, 2015 @ 2:23pm 
First thing that came to my mind while seeing footage about this game was how much it resembles the original Ragnarok game.
Zilos Aug 9, 2015 @ 2:58pm 
Looks inspired by RO, yeah. That hairstyle is pretty generic though.. like a lot in the fantasy genre if you think about it.

I think it's tough to really look at a game these days and not see others in there to some degree. (e.g Dragon Age 3 vs Witcher 3)
Retrovirus  [developer] Aug 9, 2015 @ 7:59pm 
Yes, we're also inspired by Ragnarok Online for the exploration sprites, among other games. In our opinion, the style just really fit with the backgrounds and the event interactions, they really complement each other.
Don't worry though, we handcrafted those art assets by ourselves. ;)
It should be apparent on battle sprites, although the art direction is similar, the proportion and things are pretty different.

If anyone interested in links, we already answer some of your question on zero-friction.net a while back : http://www.zero-friction.net/2015/07/23/rpg-celestian-tales-old-north-developer-interview/

Last edited by Retrovirus; Aug 9, 2015 @ 11:31pm
Powerful Holy God Aug 9, 2015 @ 11:05pm 
Looks much more like Suikoden 2 sprites
OneMoreGame Aug 10, 2015 @ 4:48pm 
This characters' art style reminds me a lot of Ragnarok Online. I like that.
HIGH VOLTAGE Aug 10, 2015 @ 11:25pm 
http://imgur.com/RJFRqQS

Way too much "inspiration." They're just modified RO sprites.
toAd  [developer] Aug 11, 2015 @ 1:01am 
Heya,

Just chiming in to clear up any confusions. Our sprites are indeed inspired by Ragnarok sprites, but are not modifications.

Pixel arts have a specific characteristic: they are pixel-perfect. If you enlarge them with bicubic interpolation, the colours of each pixel will be broken into gradations and the resulting image is not anymore like pixel art. If you enlarge them with nearest neighbour interpolation, the pixel replacements will be so broken you'd rather start from scratch. Since our sprites' size are far larger than RO, modifying RO sprites instead of making them is merely shooting ourselves in the foot. Not to mention the differences in cloth shapes and textures and the animation frames.

Of course, because RO's style became our basis in making the assets, our sprites ended up resembling them in some aspects. In a way we're proud of being compared to Ragnarok as it means we made the assets as good as they did ;)
Last edited by toAd; Aug 11, 2015 @ 1:02am
davidb11 Aug 11, 2015 @ 7:09am 
Since I never played RO, I didn't see the comparisons, but this game does look like a lot of fun. And will be on the list of games I buy soonish.

The link above claiming this game is a rip off,. linked to an imgur, well, I'm sorry, but it's really obvious this game's sprites aren't a rip-off. You can tell the distinct differences, and not to mention the size difference.

I was here for Limbo of the Lost, I think I don't need to explain how difficult it is to get away with carbon copying assets from Ragnarok Online. :)

As an Aside, I did play Runescape before it was cool, or even known, in 2000. 2d beta for the win. :)
Last edited by davidb11; Aug 11, 2015 @ 7:09am
Ailes Aug 11, 2015 @ 8:29am 
Don't all games with this style look like that? If you were looking hard enough you may find dozens of other games to be seemingly rip-offs to Ragnarok.
Mr. Polarbear Mar 3, 2017 @ 7:32pm 
It's not only you. The developer can claim these are 'inspired' by RO, despite much of the sprites in this game being clearly traced or modified. Anyone with some basic spriting experience can see this. It doesn't really bother me but the fact that the developer tries to deny it shows they aren't an honest studio. I almost bought this game but opted not to after finding this thread. Thanks OP.
Last edited by Mr. Polarbear; Mar 3, 2017 @ 7:33pm
davidb11 Mar 3, 2017 @ 7:33pm 
So, you thought resurrecting a 2 year old thread is a good idea?
Really?
I mean, everyone forgot about this thread....

Also, if you bothered, the comparisons make it obvious it's not a rip off of RO in any way shape or form.
Last edited by davidb11; Mar 3, 2017 @ 7:34pm
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