this game makes no sense

[Rasg0s]

or am I just dumb?
I played for the first time, went to the door in the tower, couple enemies spawned, they one shot me out the wazoo...

ok I tought, I have to level up or something... Played a couple of times, leveled up, went to the same door, and I released a tom&jerry's tom scream again when they smacked me back to the lobby in a literal second.

is this game really telling me to replay the same "map" 10 times and extract 10 times to level up and unlock stuff? im sorry but the first map is fun for only 2 times, 3 starts to get old. I refuse to replay that map 10 times...

if im missing something let me know. im about to refund, wich is a shame because I really like the aesthethics and the gameplay. thanks!

[Tentacle of Ozric]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

Originally posted by RzRTelhalm:

In a year it's going to be the same loop but with more content, doubt you're coming back.

Welcome to roguelites.

Lmao Ive play more roguelites/likes that you will in your entire life. This game is just not good.
Have fun walking the same little island 15 times.

How do you know how many games he has played and is going to play in his life ? are you a wizard ? eurojackpot numbers plz

[Don Melon]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

I played for the first time, went to the door in the tower, couple enemies spawned, they one shot me out the wazoo...

Yes, it is not TES Online ><

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

if im missing something let me know. im about to refund, wich is a shame because I really like the aesthethics and the gameplay. thanks!

You say you like the gameplay then you need to understand the game mechanics. Worry not and read this:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/3156770/view/4665256842950707875?l=english

[1mbalanced]

i am sorry but i have no other words except "git gud"
Witchfire is not your regular go pew pew to everyone you see shooter. Please do yourself a favour and learn more about the game before buying it

[Pinback]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

Trust me I've been playing games. Shooting dashing and using an ability is not deep at all for me, it's basic but fun if the other aspects of the game are solid.

The second time I went to the door after farming the level, I moved away from the door and waited, enemies spawned, managed to land a shot on one of them, and then they teleported right next to me and one shot me. They are too op. That's is my problem, I'm too weak even after Playing the first island a couple of times. I'm not playing the first island 10 times... I already know it as the palm of my hand.

You would have loved the earlier version of the game. It's almost to easy now.

[Don Melon]

Originally posted by Pinback:

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

Trust me I've been playing games. Shooting dashing and using an ability is not deep at all for me, it's basic but fun if the other aspects of the game are solid.

The second time I went to the door after farming the level, I moved away from the door and waited, enemies spawned, managed to land a shot on one of them, and then they teleported right next to me and one shot me. They are too op. That's is my problem, I'm too weak even after Playing the first island a couple of times. I'm not playing the first island 10 times... I already know it as the palm of my hand.

You would have loved the earlier version of the game. It's almost to easy now.

Rasg0s ✔ got it all wrong. It's not about to earn, it's about to learn. It's not about farming, it's not about xp to level up. It's about learning your opponents and their moves, knowning the environment and how to take advantage of it.

The game felt really difficult for about those first 10 runs, at least for me, I never played a game like this before. I had picked a guy starting on lvl1. The game is still difficult but it's cool and fun and I really enjoy it.

[Tino]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

Trust me I've been playing games. Shooting dashing and using an ability is not deep at all for me, it's basic but fun if the other aspects of the game are solid.

The second time I went to the door after farming the level, I moved away from the door and waited, enemies spawned, managed to land a shot on one of them, and then they teleported right next to me and one shot me. They are too op. That's is my problem, I'm too weak even after Playing the first island a couple of times. I'm not playing the first island 10 times... I already know it as the palm of my hand.

No, the enemies are not op. The developer also emphasized on that in a recent post that they not scale their HP with your level. That means you'll soon becoming op on the first island. I can confirm that because I'm now at level 25 or 26 and after returning to the first island to finish a secret area it felt so easy now I couldn't believe.

Btw. I play Witchfire in VR with PSVR2 motion controllers, not a gamepad for what that game was designed and it just works. In my opinion it is very well designed. I remember that I struggled many times in the beginning but after realizing that I can convert witchfire into souls currency and continously leveling my stats up it was clear that I would beat the enemies.

Regarding the portals. If you wanna return to the hub you just have to wait until it opens and then instantly press X to return. There will be no enemies. Maybe you have to clean up the portal first because they spawn within in the portal intervall but then you just have to wait until it's active.

I think the only difficulty in the beginning is to find out how the game works. After that it is grinding, leveling up stats and gnosis and reveal a lot of secrets, fighting the bosses, finding relics, scrolls and other artifacts. I have so much fun with the slowly progressing game and now I'm already in the third area, which is currently the last available in the game according to the developer. With each gnosis level there will be new enemies, traps and secrets. And that makes the game harder, but you can choose when you level up gnosis and I farmed souls for a few hours before doing that.

[Ivara Ara]

People have never played extraction shooters and it shows...
Go in, get as much xp/souls as you can
You start struggling then find a portal and leave
Level up
Go back in
You get better and start slowly upgrading things and learning attack patterns.

Comeon guys, just say you suck at the game instead of blaming it

[Rasg0s]

Originally posted by Ivara Ara:

People have never played extraction shooters and it shows...
Go in, get as much xp/souls as you can
You start struggling then find a portal and leave
Level up
Go back in
You get better and start slowly upgrading things and learning attack patterns.

Comeon guys, just say you suck at the game instead of blaming it

False and wrong. Because when the "struggle" begins, it's because the one shot kill teleporting guys appeared. So at that point my only choice is to die. So no... Your point would work if I see a enemy I deal no damage to so I could think "ok time to extract". But no. In this garbage game you are destined to die like a fool because OP enemies just spawn in your face and one shot you. So the only choice knowing that is: cleaning the island until that point and extract, do that X ammounts of time and then take a gamble and try to kill the op enemies again. I'm sorry lil dudes, but it's just a bad game. I play harder games, more confusing games, every type of game. I'm not mad because I can't dodge or kill a monster. I'm talking about this game making the core gameplay so boring and nonsensical. They didn't know how to make the game longer, and they didn't want to develop more maps and areas, so they came up with the worst idea ever "let's tell people this is a single player extraction game, so they are FORCeD to quit the level and replay the same bs island a couple of times, don't worry there is always people will defend anything". Lmao.

[TheMap]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

Originally posted by Ivara Ara:

People have never played extraction shooters and it shows...
Go in, get as much xp/souls as you can
You start struggling then find a portal and leave
Level up
Go back in
You get better and start slowly upgrading things and learning attack patterns.

Comeon guys, just say you suck at the game instead of blaming it

False and wrong. Because when the "struggle" begins, it's because the one shot kill teleporting guys appeared. So at that point my only choice is to die. So no... Your point would work if I see a enemy I deal no damage to so I could think "ok time to extract". But no. In this garbage game you are destined to die like a fool because OP enemies just spawn in your face and one shot you. So the only choice knowing that is: cleaning the island until that point and extract, do that X ammounts of time and then take a gamble and try to kill the op enemies again. I'm sorry lil dudes, but it's just a bad game. I play harder games, more confusing games, every type of game. I'm not mad because I can't dodge or kill a monster. I'm talking about this game making the core gameplay so boring and nonsensical. They didn't know how to make the game longer, and they didn't want to develop more maps and areas, so they came up with the worst idea ever "let's tell people this is a single player extraction game, so they are FORCeD to quit the level and replay the same bs island a couple of times, don't worry there is always people will defend anything". Lmao.

Just admit your bad at the game and move on.

[Smile`]

Level your Gnosis to 1

[TheLuckyAce]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

Originally posted by Ivara Ara:

People have never played extraction shooters and it shows...
Go in, get as much xp/souls as you can
You start struggling then find a portal and leave
Level up
Go back in
You get better and start slowly upgrading things and learning attack patterns.

Comeon guys, just say you suck at the game instead of blaming it

False and wrong. Because when the "struggle" begins, it's because the one shot kill teleporting guys appeared. So at that point my only choice is to die. So no... Your point would work if I see a enemy I deal no damage to so I could think "ok time to extract". But no. In this garbage game you are destined to die like a fool because OP enemies just spawn in your face and one shot you. So the only choice knowing that is: cleaning the island until that point and extract, do that X ammounts of time and then take a gamble and try to kill the op enemies again. I'm sorry lil dudes, but it's just a bad game. I play harder games, more confusing games, every type of game. I'm not mad because I can't dodge or kill a monster. I'm talking about this game making the core gameplay so boring and nonsensical. They didn't know how to make the game longer, and they didn't want to develop more maps and areas, so they came up with the worst idea ever "let's tell people this is a single player extraction game, so they are FORCeD to quit the level and replay the same bs island a couple of times, don't worry there is always people will defend anything". Lmao.

Sorry but you are just whining at this point. And you are exactly what you say you dont... you are mad because you cannot dodge or kill the swordsman ALWAYS spawn at the same location at the same time.

I've not played Shooter-Games since Bioshock Infinite (and the last one before that was Classic Counter Strike) and still I dont have any issue with the situation you describe. Even on my first run the two Swordsman did not "oneshot" me while "spawning behind me". They spawn, indicated by a sound. They charge you, indicated by sound and VISUALS (on them AND you). If you cannot react to that or are unwilling to learn this simple mechanic (which will be part of EVERY encounter from that point on) you are just not willing to play the game and just want to whine.

Move on. Play something different.

[Rasg0s]

Originally posted by TheLuckyAce:

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

False and wrong. Because when the "struggle" begins, it's because the one shot kill teleporting guys appeared. So at that point my only choice is to die. So no... Your point would work if I see a enemy I deal no damage to so I could think "ok time to extract". But no. In this garbage game you are destined to die like a fool because OP enemies just spawn in your face and one shot you. So the only choice knowing that is: cleaning the island until that point and extract, do that X ammounts of time and then take a gamble and try to kill the op enemies again. I'm sorry lil dudes, but it's just a bad game. I play harder games, more confusing games, every type of game. I'm not mad because I can't dodge or kill a monster. I'm talking about this game making the core gameplay so boring and nonsensical. They didn't know how to make the game longer, and they didn't want to develop more maps and areas, so they came up with the worst idea ever "let's tell people this is a single player extraction game, so they are FORCeD to quit the level and replay the same bs island a couple of times, don't worry there is always people will defend anything". Lmao.

Sorry but you are just whining at this point. And you are exactly what you say you dont... you are mad because you cannot dodge or kill the swordsman ALWAYS spawn at the same location at the same time.

I've not played Shooter-Games since Bioshock Infinite (and the last one before that was Classic Counter Strike) and still I dont have any issue with the situation you describe. Even on my first run the two Swordsman did not "oneshot" me while "spawning behind me". They spawn, indicated by a sound. They charge you, indicated by sound and VISUALS (on them AND you). If you cannot react to that or are unwilling to learn this simple mechanic (which will be part of EVERY encounter from that point on) you are just not willing to play the game and just want to whine.

Move on. Play something different.

It's just trial an error in a bad way. In the first area. No one here is denying that they died too to those guys. So... That is intended, and the boring loop is intended. You saying you didn't play a single fps game since infinite just tells that you don't know to distinguish between good and bad design. You are just playing and enduring whatever you find. I'm sorry but I know when a game is objectively good or bad. This game atmosphere, style and gameplay is fantastic. But the way they force you to play and the core gameplay loop is puke inducing. Don't worry it's your second time in your life playing an fps, you don't have a consolidated and educated point of view. Enjoy.

[VonFIDDE]

Well if you don't upgrade the gnosis or whatever it's called, it's pretty easy. Research weapons first so you have the tools and ammo to deal with the mobs. I guess once you lvl20 with some upgraded weapons you can start with the gnosis stuff (it sounds like it's then the game gets hard).

[Tentacle of Ozric]

Originally posted by Rasg0s ✔:

Originally posted by TheLuckyAce:

Sorry but you are just whining at this point. And you are exactly what you say you dont... you are mad because you cannot dodge or kill the swordsman ALWAYS spawn at the same location at the same time.

I've not played Shooter-Games since Bioshock Infinite (and the last one before that was Classic Counter Strike) and still I dont have any issue with the situation you describe. Even on my first run the two Swordsman did not "oneshot" me while "spawning behind me". They spawn, indicated by a sound. They charge you, indicated by sound and VISUALS (on them AND you). If you cannot react to that or are unwilling to learn this simple mechanic (which will be part of EVERY encounter from that point on) you are just not willing to play the game and just want to whine.

Move on. Play something different.

It's just trial an error in a bad way. In the first area. No one here is denying that they died too to those guys. So... That is intended, and the boring loop is intended. You saying you didn't play a single fps game since infinite just tells that you don't know to distinguish between good and bad design. You are just playing and enduring whatever you find. I'm sorry but I know when a game is objectively good or bad. This game atmosphere, style and gameplay is fantastic. But the way they force you to play and the core gameplay loop is puke inducing. Don't worry it's your second time in your life playing an fps, you don't have a consolidated and educated point of view. Enjoy.

Your experience with FPS games have nothing to do with what someone else enjoys or not. I played FPS games since Quake 1 and still think the gameplay loop here is awesome. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[1mbalanced]

Originally posted by Tentacle of Ozric:

Your experience with FPS games have nothing to do with what someone else enjoys or not. I played FPS games since Quake 1 and still think the gameplay loop here is awesome. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Same here, i played fps since Doom 1 and Wolfenstein 3d. and totally agree with you.