A little accuracy would be appreciated

[RM60]

For the mask shard of the preyer, it says to "celebrate the GODHOOD of Judas Iscariot." Where to even begin with this utter garbage? Please be considerate of what you are putting in your game. How about these more accurate adjectives wickedness, evil, selfishness, failure, frailty, faithlessness?

[Tentacle of Ozric]

It's just a game, not an accurate source of religious knowledge.

[WeaverDuck]

You are complaining that devs put bullsheet text that does not fit lore of some book full of complete bullsheet? Thats bullsheet...

[battledroll]

Originally posted by WeaverDuck:

You are complaining that devs put bullsheet text that does not fit lore of some book full of complete bullsheet? Thats bullsheet...

Geez man, are you ok?

[Bam Bam]

the reddit fedora atheists are mad that there is any biblical at all, and the Christians are mad it's not done right. The gamers think killing witches with a cross is cool.

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by WeaverDuck:

You are complaining that devs put bullsheet text that does not fit lore of some book full of complete bullsheet? Thats bullsheet...

The issue is it doesn't make sense inside of the game's established lore.

The Preyers are supposed to be penitents seeking redemption by serving the Church. That doesn't align with revering Judas Iscariot.

That line of text isn't cool or grimdark, it's lore-breaking.

Imagine a 40k game where the Grey Knights wear armor with inscriptions celebrating Horus. It wouldn't make sense.

[vladeemer]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by WeaverDuck:

You are complaining that devs put bullsheet text that does not fit lore of some book full of complete bullsheet? Thats bullsheet...

The issue is it doesn't make sense inside of the game's established lore.

The Preyers are supposed to be penitents seeking redemption by serving the Church. That doesn't align with revering Judas Iscariot.

That line of text isn't cool or grimdark, it's lore-breaking.

Imagine a 40k game where the Grey Knights wear armor with inscriptions celebrating Horus. It wouldn't make sense.

+1

[Tentacle of Ozric]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by WeaverDuck:

You are complaining that devs put bullsheet text that does not fit lore of some book full of complete bullsheet? Thats bullsheet...

The issue is it doesn't make sense inside of the game's established lore.

The Preyers are supposed to be penitents seeking redemption by serving the Church. That doesn't align with revering Judas Iscariot.

That line of text isn't cool or grimdark, it's lore-breaking.

Imagine a 40k game where the Grey Knights wear armor with inscriptions celebrating Horus. It wouldn't make sense.

Do we know from the lore who made this particular mask ? I mean, maybe from the mask creator's perspective, Judas was someone worth celebrating.

Also when you read this about Elias himself: "A zealot who killed many men of the cloth for not living up to his vision of the word of God.", clearly this guy had some twisted vision of the bible, maybe even to the extreme where he thought Judas did the right thing or something. In this context the description does not sound that lore-breaking to me.

[RM60]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by WeaverDuck:

You are complaining that devs put bullsheet text that does not fit lore of some book full of complete bullsheet? Thats bullsheet...

The issue is it doesn't make sense inside of the game's established lore.

The Preyers are supposed to be penitents seeking redemption by serving the Church. That doesn't align with revering Judas Iscariot.

That line of text isn't cool or grimdark, it's lore-breaking.

Imagine a 40k game where the Grey Knights wear armor with inscriptions celebrating Horus. It wouldn't make sense.

Well said. Exactly my point.

[R4v3n's W1ngs]

The mask shard in question are the one from Elias 'A zealot who killed many men of the clothes for not living up to his vision of God'
Now real lore question does that mean this dead prayer was an heretic and able to wield witchfire ? All the prayers seems to be siners in a way

[RM60]

Originally posted by Tentacle of Ozric:

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

The issue is it doesn't make sense inside of the game's established lore.

The Preyers are supposed to be penitents seeking redemption by serving the Church. That doesn't align with revering Judas Iscariot.

That line of text isn't cool or grimdark, it's lore-breaking.

Imagine a 40k game where the Grey Knights wear armor with inscriptions celebrating Horus. It wouldn't make sense.

Do we know from the lore who made this particular mask ? I mean, maybe from the mask creator's perspective, Judas was someone worth celebrating.

Also when you read this about Elias himself: "A zealot who killed many men of the cloth for not living up to his vision of the word of God.", clearly this guy had some twisted vision of the bible, maybe even to the extreme where he thought Judas did the right thing or something. In this context the description does not sound that lore-breaking to me.

Even with Elias killing men of the cloth for not living up to his vision of the Word of God, there is no way to make Judas look like someone to be praised let alone revered as a god unless... you are a satanist. That is the only way. It absolutely is lore breaking

[RM60]

Originally posted by RM60:

Originally posted by Tentacle of Ozric:

Do we know from the lore who made this particular mask ? I mean, maybe from the mask creator's perspective, Judas was someone worth celebrating.

Also when you read this about Elias himself: "A zealot who killed many men of the cloth for not living up to his vision of the word of God.", clearly this guy had some twisted vision of the bible, maybe even to the extreme where he thought Judas did the right thing or something. In this context the description does not sound that lore-breaking to me.

Even with Elias killing men of the cloth for not living up to his vision of the Word of God, there is no way to make Judas look like someone to be praised let alone revered as a god unless... you are a satanist. That is the only way. It absolutely is lore breaking

So let's play it out. The preyers are satanists that worship one of the most despised people in history as a god because why? Because he was duped by the devil to betray Jesus for 30 pieces of silver, then was so remorseful that he killed himself? Lol, this is just dumb.

[PanVlk]

It is a game where the pope has a secret task force of immortal wizards running around killing witches with grenade launchers and fireballs. I suspect the religious lore for the game might be slightly altered compared to the current real world catholic doctrine.

[Name]

Just shoot stuff, there doesn't need to be a problem.

[RM60]

Originally posted by Bam Bam:

the reddit fedora atheists are mad that there is any biblical at all, and the Christians are mad it's not done right. The gamers think killing witches with a cross is cool.

I think a lot of Christians think that is cool too. Why make this appeal to Christians just to spit in their face in the lore? Not even in a well thought out or "edgy" way either. Like Judas is not someone to be worshiped. He literally was simply deceived by the devil to betray Jesus and then went and killed himself in remorse after. That's it...

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by Tentacle of Ozric:

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

The issue is it doesn't make sense inside of the game's established lore.

The Preyers are supposed to be penitents seeking redemption by serving the Church. That doesn't align with revering Judas Iscariot.

That line of text isn't cool or grimdark, it's lore-breaking.

Imagine a 40k game where the Grey Knights wear armor with inscriptions celebrating Horus. It wouldn't make sense.

Do we know from the lore who made this particular mask ? I mean, maybe from the mask creator's perspective, Judas was someone worth celebrating.

Also when you read this about Elias himself: "A zealot who killed many men of the cloth for not living up to his vision of the word of God.", clearly this guy had some twisted vision of the bible, maybe even to the extreme where he thought Judas did the right thing or something. In this context the description does not sound that lore-breaking to me.

I guess? But even then it only really makes sense if Elias is a heretic.

Perhaps the Mask in question was an object of Witchery, which the Preyer had turned against the Witches? And in using this Mask had somehow fallen into Heresy?

Deifying Judas definitely sounds like something a Witch or Heretic would do.

Which brings us to Judas. Unless Elias is revealed to be a heretic, the lore would really need to explain how a zealot justifies "deifying" Judas, the man who (according Christians) is only known for betraying God Himself.

That said, having a heretic Preyer, or a Preyer who was somehow tricked by the Witches could be interesting. But it would need some details, as the Preyers are risking their lives to win redemption.

We've not been provided "any" other motivation for the Preyers other than that they are trying to win redemption. Deifying Judas is a massive deviation from this motivation.