Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League

Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League

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Abomination713 Jan 30, 2024 @ 7:55pm
Stop claiming this is canon to the Arkham games.
Do you know how many times companies have claimed something was part of a specific timeline or universe and retconned it when it got hated by the community? Of course the next continuation is the REAL sequel and that last one didn't count *cough* Terminator *cough*. They only claim it's part of the Arkham games because it's by the same studio and they think it will give it brownie points for that. The Arkham games were based in the world of Batman. Once you start bringing in world shattering events and bring in actual superheroes (and multi dimensional travel) , it breaks the world of Batman and he's just there as the guy to fund the Justice League since he's just a normal human with no way of dealing with anyone with real powers.
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Lucifer ★✬ Jan 30, 2024 @ 8:33pm 
love sh:repoop: posters who havent even got the game trying to say this game isnt cannon

in the first few mins when you first see batman harlley even says so. and then that whole place tells you
Abomination713 Jan 30, 2024 @ 8:42pm 
Originally posted by Lucifer ★✬:
love sh:repoop: posters who havent even got the game trying to say this game isnt cannon

in the first few mins when you first see batman harlley even says so. and then that whole place tells you
The game can claim all it wants, but it's not canon. The Arkham games were more grounded. I don't care who dies in this game like others seem to care about so much for some reason, but there's no way this game is connected to the Arkham games. That's like saying the Matrix 4 is TOTALLY canon and wasn't made because of corporate greed. Metal Gear Solid 5 is far too removed to be canon. How many times has the Halloween movies claimed to be canon and all of a sudden with the next one they are not anymore? Corporation say whatever they think will squeeze a few more dollars out of people.
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Orge Lambart Jan 30, 2024 @ 9:41pm 
Originally posted by Lucifer ★✬:
love sh:repoop: posters who havent even got the game trying to say this game isnt cannon

in the first few mins when you first see batman harlley even says so. and then that whole place tells you

anything that happens in the DC universe game wise, movie wise and heck even comic wise can be altered, changed or edited.. So while it follows the Arkham games storyline, it doesn't mean WB couldn't release another Arkham game in the same universe and either retcon this game or pretend the other game happened in another of the billions of DC universes..
GoSuperhero Jan 30, 2024 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Dapper Tardigrade:
Game wasn't even made by the same devs who made the Arkham games (they went off to found Hundred Star Games), so it doesn't really matter what these guys think is canon. I wish more people understood this concept. There is more to a studio than its name.

they left at the end of 2022. so they still worked seven of eight years on this game.
bipoqrlz Jan 30, 2024 @ 9:54pm 
IS SUICIDE SQUAD: KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE CONNECTED TO THE BATMAN: ARKHAM SERIES?
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League features an original, narrative-driven experience that picks up the story five years after the events of Batman: Arkham Knight. Players who are familiar with the Batman: Arkham series will see some related narrative elements pop up in the game.

Straight from the Suicide Squad website's FAQ page.

Sorry bro, they own the IP and they say it's canon to the Arkham universe.
Vinnolo Jan 30, 2024 @ 10:07pm 
it is canon, its in their faq, also boomer even brings up the fact that deadshot isnt white anymore (Deadshot didnt like it)
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KevinT1149 Jan 30, 2024 @ 10:39pm 
As much as I don’t want this game to be canon after a few hours in they very much force it into the player it’s canon. Even to the point that White Deadshot is shown and they explain why he’s black now.

So far what makes it canon is

*Possible Spoilers*

* the opening scene when Waller goes to Arkham to recruit the suicide squad the gates to Arkham are the same exact ones scene when Batman is delivering Joker in the first game.

* Waller has all 4 members of the Squad in these stretchers to explain to them their mission. The room they are in is the very first room that Batman battles his first inmates in Arkham Asylum where joker first takes over Arkham.

* Same scene Boomarang gets into an argument with Deadshot and then after finding out he’s deadshot says “Deadshot is white.”

* First encounter with Batman happens in a the Batman Experence which is a Museum of the Arkham Trilogy (Origins not mentioned). In it you see all the concept art of the characters from the Arkham games and can hit a button. Jack Ryder proceeds to tell you about the events like for example besides each major character having a bio you can listen to you can see a cardboard cut out of Batman carrying a dead Joker out of the Theater and there will be a voice over from Ryder about what happened. The events of all 3 games is shown in this museum as well as explaining that few years after the events of Arkham Knight was when Batman met Superman for the first time.

* White Deadshot from Arkham City is displayed and interacting with it as Deadshot gets a special line of dialog indicating that the Deadshot in Arkham City and the Assault on Arkham animated film was an imposter.

* Waller gives all the Squad their outfits and for Harley she is given the Nurse Harley outfit from Arkham Asylum but then proceeds to dismiss it and instead go for something “more progressive for a woman” completely disrespecting better games before it (not to mention Harley in the Batman experence is her Nurse Cutout that as Captain Boomarang if you interact with he will also disrespect the poor choice in Harley’s wardrobe)

So regardless if you want it to be canon or not it is. I can choose to try to make this elseworlds but I can’t deny it’s still intended to be a follow up to Arkham Knight. How Batman met Superman is terribly explained and to me goes agaisnt the whole Knightfall Protocol and what the whole point of that was suppose to be. The game seems to want to give fans a love letter with the museum to the trilogy but also disrespect it with I’m guessing dialog added and forced by Sweet Baby Inc. obviously the whole Batman thing that makes Batman in this game completely feel uncharacteristic to the Arkham verse Batman in which if this game was its own thing i wouldn’t care about what they did with Batman as much but the fact this is the Batman we spent 5 games knowing a animated film and comic books of this version of Batman and it being in my opinion one of the most powerful versions of Batman to date be completely treated the way he does I don’t want to consider this canon either.

Gotham Knights deapite people want to hate on it I feel treated Batman with more respect. He died the way Batman would have died with a heroic sacrifice. Not only that he fought with himself to snap out of the negative effects of the Lazerous pits control which Batman will do. While Arkham Batman never once so far not have I seen in the leaks ever bothers to fight against Brainiacs control.

Also another thing I don’t see talked about either is the fact that Hall of Justice has Batman recording dialog to talk to visitors who are touring the Hall of Justice… so your telling me that the Arkham Batman decided to sell out by going into a recording booth to record messages for holograms for people who were going to visit the Hall of Justice? I mean that alone I can’t see the man who was brutal in previous games now selling his likeness and voice for tourists.
Lucifer ★✬ Jan 30, 2024 @ 10:49pm 
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Originally posted by Lucifer ★✬:
love sh:repoop: posters who havent even got the game trying to say this game isnt cannon

in the first few mins when you first see batman harlley even says so. and then that whole place tells you
The game can claim all it wants, but it's not canon. The Arkham games were more grounded. I don't care who dies in this game like others seem to care about so much for some reason, but there's no way this game is connected to the Arkham games. That's like saying the Matrix 4 is TOTALLY canon and wasn't made because of corporate greed. Metal Gear Solid 5 is far too removed to be canon. How many times has the Halloween movies claimed to be canon and all of a sudden with the next one they are not anymore? Corporation say whatever they think will squeeze a few more dollars out of people.
trolls like you can claim all it wants, but it's canon
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Jyggalad Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:01pm 
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Originally posted by Lucifer ★✬:
love sh:repoop: posters who havent even got the game trying to say this game isnt cannon

in the first few mins when you first see batman harlley even says so. and then that whole place tells you
The game can claim all it wants, but it's not canon.
Hmm... I think if the devs of the game say it's canon... It's probably canon.

Like yes, they can say later it no longer isn't. But as of right now, it is.
Abomination713 Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:17pm 
You guys really don't have the ability to think for yourselves, do you? Just because someone says something doesn't automatically make it true. Just because a game brings up references or uses similar locations doesn't mean anything. There's a Yakuza game that you fight Zombies in and uses similar areas, but it's not canon and just meant as a goofy side game. Same thing with Metal Gear Survive. Think for yourselves.
bipoqrlz Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:31pm 
I don't know where we are losing you here, buddy.

The studio behind the game and the entire Arkham universe, said so and there are so many tie ins to Arkham as mentioned above.

It's okay that you don't agree where the story went, but you can't dissociate away the truth here.

Who knows, maybe when Suicide Squad 2: Suicide Harder comes out, you may enjoy the what they're doing with the story.
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Uncy Jan 30, 2024 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Do you know how many times companies have claimed something was part of a specific timeline or universe and retconned it when it got hated by the community? Of course the next continuation is the REAL sequel and that last one didn't count *cough* Terminator *cough*. They only claim it's part of the Arkham games because it's by the same studio and they think it will give it brownie points for that. The Arkham games were based in the world of Batman. Once you start bringing in world shattering events and bring in actual superheroes (and multi dimensional travel) , it breaks the world of Batman and he's just there as the guy to fund the Justice League since he's just a normal human with no way of dealing with anyone with real powers.

newsflash - you, the consumer, don't decide what's canon and what's not canon
Abomination713 Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by Uncy:
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Do you know how many times companies have claimed something was part of a specific timeline or universe and retconned it when it got hated by the community? Of course the next continuation is the REAL sequel and that last one didn't count *cough* Terminator *cough*. They only claim it's part of the Arkham games because it's by the same studio and they think it will give it brownie points for that. The Arkham games were based in the world of Batman. Once you start bringing in world shattering events and bring in actual superheroes (and multi dimensional travel) , it breaks the world of Batman and he's just there as the guy to fund the Justice League since he's just a normal human with no way of dealing with anyone with real powers.

newsflash - you, the consumer, don't decide what's canon and what's not canon
I do and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
alex010300 Jan 31, 2024 @ 1:28am 
I agree, we also got a Batman game were he dies early. This is just another word that is like the Arkham games word but is different.
Terran Ghost Jan 31, 2024 @ 7:48am 
this is canon to the Arkham games.
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