Piper PA28 Cherokee 180F Add-On

[Fidel]

$25 for a plane? Seriously?

Look, I already know what you're going to say.

"If you don't like it, don't buy it"

But that's the thing. I'd love to be able to buy all of this DLC, I really would. I just won't spend thousands of dollars on all of it, and I wish those of you who do it would stop. You're the ones who keep allowing addon developers to charge so much for their products.

I know there are people who invest a ton of money on their FSX setup, and that's great for you, but by supporting developers who sell a single plane for $25, you're making it impossible for those of us who can't afford it to keep up. It's supply and demand. Just stop overpaying and they'll be forced to drop their prices.

There's no way any sane person could think a single plane that's similar to so many others that come with the game, is worth this price. Just because you can afford it, it doesn't mean you should pay it. Please, be smarter consumers.

[Jace against Humanity]

But...you don't HAVE to buy anything for FSX. The beauty of it is....well....let's take the Cherokee addon for instance.

I can with a few minutes Googling find a freeware PA28 that's as good as the DLC one, that's just as well modeled, that is quicker to download (depending on where you are in the world) and costs nothing....

For the price of the DLC< $15 for me, I could buy two or three games, or one bit of FSX DLC.

I mean, there's a whole heap of freeware FSX aircraft out there. If you name an aircraft, chances are it's been made either by a payware firm or a freeware firm or both (The JS3 for instance, PMDG and PAD both did their own versions of it, PMDG's was paid and PAD was freeware)

Like you I'd love to buy all the DLC but knowing there's freewar out there that's amazing quality (like....the two freeware Just Flight planes, the Cessena 152 and the Just Flight 757) tips my hand towards freeware/payware away from Steam. Mostly because I'd love...for example....the PMDG planes to be offered as Steam DLC but I highly doubt it'll happen any time soon and until the FSX SE devs decide to block off installing external programs or aircraft....yeah, I'll keep on using freeware and payware outside of Steam myself.

So there ya go, my $0.02

[YorkEagle]

To be honest the default Aircraft that ship with the game are pretty dull in terms of cockpit interiors and low res panels. A bit of googling and it is possible to find freeware Aircraft that are in some cases...better than the above mentioned.
I have bought a couple of payware Aircraft and are pleased with them. Trying to resist the urge to spend more!
You could always visit the major fsx payware websites and keep an eye out for "special offers".... You might just find a bargain! :-)

[Morag]

It got a good review from Avsim

http://www.avsim.com/pages/1008/carenado_180F/carenado_cherokee180.htm

To round it all off then, here we have a good looking, but not gleaming honest Piper Cherokee 180F that does exactly what is expected of it. With enough excitement for the beginner, enough skill requirement to satisfy the needs of a practicing pilot, and without the vices of some sophisticated designs of aircraft that need handling with white knuckles most of the time. This will give immense pleasure to one and all, and to cap it all it is a cheap but well appointed model. I like it a lot, and Carenado should be pleased with the result.

[Karim]

If you don't like it, don't buy it.

[Fidel]

Thank (most of) you for your replies, and for actually listening to what I was saying. You've made some good points, and I guess the consensus is that there is a lot of free content available. I totally agree, and I've downloaded a lot of it, but to be honest, I don't mind paying a bit of money to not have to deal with the multiple installation methods, and varying qualities of free addons.

I'd gladly pay a buck or two a plane, and a few bucks more for scenery if it was all tied directly to Steam, and it was as simple as putting it in my cart. I also can't count the number of times I've had to reinstall FSX over the years, and it would be nice if I didn't have to take inventory of all the addons I've downloaded, because they'd all be saved for me on Steam.

[Ronin]

Graphics of this aircraft very bad.. Not 3D graphics, graphics flat. Poor textures

[Morag]

Автор сообщения: Ronin

Graphics of this aircraft very bad.. Not 3D graphics, graphics flat. Poor textures

Do you just have it set on the 2D panel? I think it has a 2D and a 3D cockpit.

[N10020]

i'm never going to stop buying. Ever.

[N10020]

Don't feed the trolls.

[Fidel]

Автор сообщения: mikey10020

Don't feed the trolls.

Maybe you should've tried reading my comments. But I see anything over a single sentence is probably a little too much for you to handle.

[wildblu]

There are several options for you: a) wait until the aircraft is on sale (generally in December, but perhaps earlier), b) save for the purchase by not spending your hard-earned cash on a movie/coffee/beer/fill-in-your-luxury, or c) use freeware aircraft until the developers see the error of their ways.

If you see FSX SE as a game and you only want pretty aircraft with mostly generic flight models, then I agree that the aircraft is "over-priced".

However, if you see it as a flight simulator and if the developers devoted considerable resources in re-creating an experience that is as close to real as possible, then I don't believe it is -- especially if you intend to spend tens if not hundreds of hours flying that particular aircraft.

[Zorlac]

Everyone argued, this game doesn't need steam workshop! We can get plenty of planes through mods on other sites!! This is what happens when you rely on things like that. $25 single planes in a game.

[RoY]

Why would you want every plane for FSX? I only buy the ones I want.
Are you a commie from some far off banana republic? Is that why you hate paying for things? I remember you complaining about having to pay for something else as well a few months back. I have not bought any DLC yet from dovetail yet but if and when I see something I like I can assure you I will buy it. You should see the prices at the Carenado website which is where this DLC is coming from. They are similar here to, they range from $22.00 to $45.00 for each plane. I dont understand all the whining over here?

[Rocky Jet]

I know somethings cost way more than it should but it really adds the immersion Microsoft left out. Spend the 25 dollars on an add on you would enjoy and get some aircraft of freeware sites. There is a lot of good stuff out there. I have spent about 3000 USD (including my PC) in the past 6 years on the simulator with planes, scenery, sounds, panels, home cockpit acessories, yokes, pedals, etc you name it, we all more than likely have it. Let me ask you this, how long have you been simming?

[Rocky Jet]

Автор сообщения: RoY

Why would you want every plane for FSX? I only buy the ones I want.
Are you a commie from some far off banana republic? Is that why you hate paying for things? I remember you complaining about having to pay for something else as well a few months back. I have not bought any DLC yet from dovetail yet but if and when I see something I like I can assure you I will buy it. You should see the prices at the Carenado website which is where this DLC is coming from. They are similar here to, they range from $22.00 to $45.00 for each plane. I dont understand all the whining over here?

Ahhh, Carenado.....one of the best aircraft merchants out there. I have about 10 carenado planes and it was every expensive penny worth it lol