real flght vfr scenery

[paulymitch]

blurred dull dissapointing

[paulymitch]

update i do not know why but by messing about it now looks great looks of contrast sharp great detail

[Morag]

There's probably a manual insalled somewhere, might be a link to it in your start menu but if not it might be in the scenery install folder. That'll probably give you some advice on the best settings to choose.

Photoscenery can also look a lot better if you bring the visibility down in the weather options so you get a bit of haze. Try 10 or 20 miles (very realistic for the UK!) see how that makes it look.

It installs quite a high detail mesh too, have a fly round North Wales, Lake District or maybe around the South West, cornwall and devon will probably look quite nice, esp from about 1000 feet or more.

[paulymitch]

my previous comment was a false hope, i was in an area of the horizon vfrgenx scenery, done a screenshot where the green washed out vfr scenery abutts the vfrgenx will post . I have a powefull machine, running at 4.4 gig with a gtx 970 card, fsx has all the tweaks with these vfr scenerys get frame rate of 230, settings apart from autogen maxed out but no matter how powerfull if people cant program properly or dont care things lkie this result.

[philip.david]

just down loaded vfr vol 4 could not recomend it scenery postcard flat , blurred , lack of detail fuzzy could go on all night . the only way it looks half decent is if i climb to 2000 ft take my glasses of and squint lol would not recomend even if free sorry , unless someone tells me it needs to be set up its a thumbs down from me .

[Budge4]

Noticed these settings were in the manual, dont know if this will help any -

ABOUT VFR REAL SCENERY
What are the best settings for using VFR Real Scenery in Flight Simulator X?

Level of Detail radius – Large
Mesh complexity – 100
Mesh Resolution – 10 m
Texture Resolution – 1 m
Water effects – High 1.x or High 2.x
Scenery complexity – very sparse
Autogen density – none

These Scenery complexity and Autogen density settings remove all the 3D objects and may result in some buildings not being included at airports. However, we think this a better compromise than having badly misplaced FSX objects appearing in the same place as their correctly placed VFR counterparts.

[paulymitch]

i have the real flight scenery joining the horizon vfr and the real flight scenery is a disgrace will post a screenshot why dont steam check these things cost me £29 for four areas the blurb was so good will think really hard before buying anymore items from steam.

[philip.david]

Tried the settings sugested above thanks budge4 but affraid to say no improvement really glad i only bought 1 vol feel sorry for paulymitch who bought all 4 vol this product is Rubbish

[Budge4]

Been having a play with the settings and i dont think these VFR pics look too bad, around Porthmadog\Snowdon area -

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/709653014366322320/0EC2B9920D8A2D3F1144977810EFA6CDB5DD0FE5/

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/709653014366311711/CF01AE06F0A6876D9F575D67D843B3F0E3DF6B9B/

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/709653014366345658/BD187D751D687E071D236DF5346CCDC2954C6427/

http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/709653014366330946/7C8B733344BAA72A36ECD709168FF855CE89896B/

http://cloud-2.steamusercontent.com/ugc/709653014366363568/41C820E0A217234F23BC47D24A9ECF6CEB09CFEC/

[Morag]

Looking nice Budge. Once you're up a couple of thousand feet is when the photo scenery starts to work. It's not that great for sight seeing at 200ft which is why I think some people are disappointed with it but there's always google earth for that...

I've never tried this or heard any reviews of it but I think this autogen add on looks great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyb1wsiCzBA

I don't know if it works in the Steam version either but it'd be easy enough to check with Just Flight.

[Budge4]

That looks very impressive Morag, might give that a try if it works with the Steam Version. Getting on better with the VFR scenery now anyway, and that Revolution-X would definately add some nice detailing. Will look on Just Flights Site. Thanks for the vid link.

[Scotflieger]

I downloaded Revolution-X and tried it against a dual installation of boxed and steam FSX. It can not find the DLC downloaded version of VFR and will not install.

On the other points raised, VFR is aimed a specific user who wants to fly VFR to navigate by map across England at normal heights above 1000 feet. With the suggested settings it provides excellent fidelity for this purpose.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by paulymitch:

my previous comment was a false hope, i was in an area of the horizon vfrgenx scenery, done a screenshot where the green washed out vfr scenery abutts the vfrgenx will post . I have a powefull machine, running at 4.4 gig with a gtx 970 card, fsx has all the tweaks with these vfr scenerys get frame rate of 230, settings apart from autogen maxed out but no matter how powerfull if people cant program properly or dont care things lkie this result.

230 frames wow cant wait too finish my new rig so far Corsair Striker Asus z97 mark1 sabertooth I74790K next Gskill DDR3 1866 32GB ram.The last part Ill get is the GTX980SC they should be down in price alittle thats great FPS good job. Going to do a sound card and shut off onboard too free up a few more frame:)

[Trapper]

Originally posted by paulymitch:

my previous comment was a false hope, i was in an area of the horizon vfrgenx scenery, done a screenshot where the green washed out vfr scenery abutts the vfrgenx will post . I have a powefull machine, running at 4.4 gig with a gtx 970 card, fsx has all the tweaks with these vfr scenerys get frame rate of 230, settings apart from autogen maxed out but no matter how powerfull if people cant program properly or dont care things lkie this result.

I have to say, if you're getting 230 fps under a spec that's less than the system I run FSX on, you've likely tweaked it to the point of suffocation. There has to be enough time between frames to do all the "stuff" necessary to get the image drawn properly. At 230FPS, that time just isn't there. FSX isn't like modern games. It doesn't care whether it was able to get the frame drawn completely. It'll toss up whatever it has when the display requests it and move on to the next. If that results in four pixels stretched out into a muddy mess to represent all of London, so be it.

I mean, I could probably tweak mine to hit 1K fps, <sarcasm>and I'd thoroughly enjoy the muddy mess that was the result. Trying to identify which splotch is the runway is where the fun is really to be had.</sarcasm>

Seriously, I'd start with a fresh fsx.cfg, forget all about FPS, reinstall the VFR DLC and see if that clears it up at all.

[Budge4]

Good choice of cpu Jeff, i have that cpu on an Asus Maximus VII m/b with 32gb 2400mhz ram. I also have a 5930k hex core on an Asus Rampage V m/b with 32gb 2666mhz ram, the 4790k is outperforming the hex core in almost every game i play. I have 2 MSI GTX 980's in SLI and on Maximus m/b they work in x8/x8, on Rampage m/b they are working in x16/x16. The Maximus\4790k setup is beating the Rampage\5930k setup on everything ive tried. If something used all 6 cores correctly then maybe it would be different but everything i use at moment the 4790k setup comes out better.

Also have a Plextor pcie SSD (x2) and one of those Samsung XP941 pcie SSD's (x4) for the onboard M.2 slot, finally managed to get the XP941 to boot now with win 7 or win 81 installed after trying various things, only problem is the Maximus m/b only has a x2 M.2 slot, the Rampage V has a x4 M.2 slot which is what i bought the XP941 for, but as i said above i prefer the Maximus\4790k performance, cant win everything i guess lol.

Ignore framerates and pics above, im at girlfriends for a few days and am using her oldish computer, old quad core @3ghz and and a HD6870, old 4:3 monitor as well lol.

Few pics when i was building my rig -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_IdNMS_diZGbnBYd2pGeVVybFU/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_IdNMS_diZGek1neXBSaE9TQjg/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_IdNMS_diZGLUYyYnN5WGhYZUU/view?usp=sharing

They were of the Rampage V before i went back to the Maximus VII.

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Thanks for the info about Revolution X Scotfleiger, will give it a miss then unless i decide to install my old boxed FSX Gold version. Or unless DTG release it on Steam?

[DTG_Martin]

Just Flight’s VFR Real Scenery packs are not really designed to make your FSX:SE experience look more attractive. Instead, their focus is providing accurate ground and terrain formations for players who want to flying using Visual Flight Rules – this is how pilots navigate when they aren’t using complex instruments. We suggest that you might think of them as a navigational gameplay feature.

Originally posted by Scotflieger:

On the other points raised, VFR is aimed a specific user who wants to fly VFR to navigate by map across England at normal heights above 1000 feet. With the suggested settings it provides excellent fidelity for this purpose.

As Scotflieger points out they are designed to be used at heights above 1000 feet. The packs are scaled so that 1 pixel is equal to 1 square metre which means the closer you fly to the ground the more distorted the scenery will become.

We would suggest that the packs are ideal for advanced players who want to develop their skills by using VFR. For players who want to improve the general scenery of their simulation experience we are working with a range of FSX developers to bring a selection of add-ons which do this to Steam in the future. A good example of this is the recently released Ben Gurion Airport by FSAddon Publishing.

Thank you for all your comments about the VFR Real Scenery packs everyone.

- Martin