Where i can found internal cabin light switch in B747 :-)

[PawelK198604]

as above or key that can make it trun on?

[PawelK198604]

Originally posted by HAL:

On the left side of the deck.

On the same panel where are the landing lights?

[3 Wire]

Originally posted by PawelK198604:

as above or key that can make it trun on?

If you're referring to the passenger cabin lighting on your DLC 747 I don't see any way to control that independently with any switches in the cockpit, they appear to come on only when it's dark enough outside (ie. night) and will shut off automatically when it get's light enough, ie. dawn, dusk, or daytime.

The external lights like strobes, beacons, landing lights, and the cockpit/panel lighting are all controlled with switches on the upper panel and/or knobs that are just below the captains primary flight instruments labeled "panel" and "flood". There's also a dome light knob on the upper panel.

[PawelK198604]

Originally posted by 3 Wire:

Originally posted by PawelK198604:

as above or key that can make it trun on?

If you're referring to the passenger cabin lighting on your DLC 747 I don't see any way to control that independently with any switches in the cockpit, they appear to come on only when it's dark enough outside (ie. night) and will shut off automatically when it get's light enough, ie. dawn, dusk, or daytime.

The external lights like strobes, beacons, landing lights, and the cockpit/panel lighting are all controlled with switches on the upper panel and/or knobs that are just below the captains primary flight instruments labeled "panel" and "flood". There's also a dome light knob on the upper panel.

I want practice take off at night and the cokpit was pitch dark

[LHookins]

3 Wire already answered your question:

the cockpit/panel lighting are all controlled with switches on the upper panel and/or knobs that are just below the captains primary flight instruments labeled "panel" and "flood". There's also a dome light knob on the upper panel

The dome light should light up the cockpit so you can see what you are doing. Panel and flood will be the other cockpit lights. You may need to have power turned on for them to work.

Hook

[3 Wire]

Originally posted by LHookins:

The dome light should light up the cockpit so you can see what you are doing. Panel and flood will be the other cockpit lights.

That's correct, but just to clarify things a bit for the DLC 747 (assuming that's what we are discussing here) the "dome" light knob lights up the entire cockpit interior and is probably only intended for "non flying" situations like being parked at the gate and pre-flight etc, because it's brightness (non adjustable) would tend to ruin night vision otherwise.

The "panel" light knob incrementally adjusts light on the panel itself, and the "flood" light knob adjusts the brightness of the main instruments like the ADI and HSI etc.

[LHookins]

the "dome" light knob lights up the entire cockpit interior and is probably only intended for "non flying" situations like being parked at the gate and pre-flight etc

Well, yeah, but consider what he wrote:

I want practice take off at night and the cokpit was pitch dark

He's on the ground. If other lights were on it wouldn't be pitch dark. He needs to see if only to turn on other lights. The dome light is a good candidate for this.

Hook

[3 Wire]

Originally posted by LHookins:

He's on the ground. If other lights were on it wouldn't be pitch dark. He needs to see if only to turn on other lights. The dome light is a good candidate for this.

Hook

I have this same aircraft installed and I can only tell you what works for me......

Even with the cockpit completely dark you can still clearly see the "panel" and "flood" light knobs which are directly below the DME readout and the HSI, and it's no problem at all to turn them on and adjust their brightness under these conditions.

The dome light is great if you're sitting at the gate doing pre or post flight tasks, but if you are taxiing to or from a gate or runway it not only ruins your night vision but it also casts a very noticeable haze on the windshield that reduces visibility considerably.

Anyone who has this DLC installed will understand what i'm talking about.

[LHookins]

My own criteria for what lights to turn on is "Can I find the switch?" If he was already on the runway he probably didn't have the benefit of nearby buildings which will give enough light to find light switches. Because out there, pitch dark really IS pitch dark.

I gave up on cabin light switches and rigged a key command to turn on the cabin lights. This particular command wasn't in the options interface but I was able to add it with a text editor. I have also had to add cabin lights to aircraft. Not all aircraft have cabin light switches.

Sitting at a remote back country air strip with the outside air temperature at -20 C gives a whole new meaning to starting cold and dark. :) You can't make out the instrument dials, much less any switches. You depend on cockpit tool tips.

You could cheat and press the key to turn an all lights but I wouldn't recommend that in an airliner on battery power.

Edit: you need to have a light, any light, to see what you are doing when entering a dark aircraft. You don't need to keep this light on after you have the aircraft set up properly. I've found moonlight to be helpful on occasion.

Hook

[3 Wire]

Originally posted by LHookins:

If he was already on the runway he probably didn't have the benefit of nearby buildings which will give enough light to find light switches. Because out there, pitch dark really IS pitch dark.

Hook

With this AC you don't need lights from nearby buildings to see the "panel" and "flood" light knobs in a dark cockpit. You can line up on the remotest runway anywhere at night and still see them clearly enough to turn them on and adjust them.

Sure, you can still turn on the dome light, but it's by no means essential for being able to find and use the panel and flood light knobs.

I'm attaching a screenshot to illustrate what I'm talking about.... The AC is parked on the runway at a very small remote California airstrip, Agua Caliente Springs, at almost midnight and it's very dark outside as you can see. The cockpit state is the default state at startup for this DLC aircraft, ie. minimal interior lighting, and you can still see and use the "panel" and "flood" light knobs just above the yoke and directly below the DME readout and HSI.....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576821085

[3 Wire]

I'm posting two more screenshots for comparison purposes. The first is with the panel and flood light knobs adjusted to about a 50% brightness level from the dark cockpit state.

The second is with the dome light turned on, and as you can see it washes out the windshield pretty badly, and completely obscures the view of the runway, and that's why it's my opinion that the dome light is really only useful when you are parked on the ramp or at a gate pre or post flight. Using it when you are lined up on the runway for takeoff really makes no sense, and is unnecessary anyway.....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576836141

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576836710

[PawelK198604]

Originally posted by 3 Wire:

I'm posting two more screenshots for comparison purposes. The first is with the panel and flood light knobs adjusted to about a 50% brightness level from the dark cockpit state.

The second is with the dome light turned on, and as you can see it washes out the windshield pretty badly, and completely obscures the view of the runway, and that's why it's my opinion that the dome light is really only useful when you are parked on the ramp or at a gate pre or post flight. Using it when you are lined up on the runway for takeoff really makes no sense, and is unecessary anyway.....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576836141

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576836710

I finally made it to take off only to lost controlll when i tried to change autopilot mode from HDG to NAV

i'm only wanted to make autopilot follow flight plan by itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud45xNHbApk

[LHookins]

Those lighting conditions are about what I would expect. I never intended for the dome light to be used for normal operations, just to let you see enough to get things set up. I thought that would have been obvious.

Not much different from a dome light in a car. It's not something you want to drive with at night.

How come the "dark" cockpit has so many instruments already running and lit up? I'm used to a dark cockpit being, well, dark.

Hook

[PawelK198604]

Originally posted by LHookins:

Those lighting conditions are about what I would expect. I never intended for the dome light to be used for normal operations, just to let you see enough to get things set up. I thought that would have been obvious.

Not much different from a dome light in a car. It's not something you want to drive with at night.

How come the "dark" cockpit has so many instruments already running and lit up? I'm used to a dark cockpit being, well, dark.

Hook

And can tell what i did wrong
https://youtu.be/ud45xNHbApk?t=2160

36 minute of recording

[3 Wire]

Originally posted by LHookins:

How come the "dark" cockpit has so many instruments already running and lit up? I'm used to a dark cockpit being, well, dark.

Because the engines are running by default when you load it up in free flight... That might be one clue.

Ask the developer, I have no idea.... It's just a dark cockpit, not "cold and dark" as in everything is turned off, and who sets up a 747 in takeoff position on the runway in a cold and dark cockpit state anyway..??? Answer... Nobody, ever.

This is a really old add on, the funky dome lighting effects are just one symptom of an add on that is really showing it's age. I was simply trying to show you how it behaves, but whatever....

[3 Wire]

Originally posted by PawelK198604:

I finally made it to take off only to lost controlll when i tried to change autopilot mode from HDG to NAV

i'm only wanted to make autopilot follow flight plan by itself

You are bouncing all over the cockpit with that video so it's hard to tell what the heck you are doing and what all you have engaged, so try staying focused on something for more than 5 seconds at a time, that might be helpful.. lol

A brief look at the manual, and more specifically the section that covers autopilot flight with the FMC shows that you didn't have the NAV1/GPS/NAV2 switch set correctly....

The manual states... " Rotate the navigation source
selector in the centre of the glareshield to GPS. This will link the route of flight in the
FMC and Flight Simulator GPS to the autopilot. Rotate the autopilot mode selector knob
to NAV. The aircraft will now be following the navigation course from the FMC."

So it seems you set the NAV/HDG switch correctly, but not the nav source selector above it.

Even so, it seems odd that the incorrect nav source setting alone would cause the plane to go in to a deep stall and crash. You don't stay focused on the primary flight instruments for me to possibly tell what else might have caused the stall, but right after you switched the AP mode selector to "NAV" the nose up pitch increased rapidly.

You also seem to be at a pretty low altitude, like less than 3000 feet when the plane enters the stall, but I can't see the altimeter clearly becauseyou are dancing all over the panel with the hat switch and you never zoom in on the primary flight instruments very much.

I'm going to suggest you thouroughly read the manual before you attempt any more complex flights using the AP and FMC.