How to deal with danger areas in FSX

[Passero]

I am wondering how to deal with danger areas in FSX. For example, I'm planning a flight on the south coast of the UK. There is a big area designated as danger area. Upon some research I notice that this area is sometimes used by the navy for training and testing purpose.
They have some info on how to prepare for this: http://airspacesafety.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/20090506_howtogetacrosstheenglishchannelv3.pdf
This however is for real flight, not virtual.

There are lots of these similar danger areas where you have to check if there is an operation in progress or not so you know if you can proceed.

I am wondering how people are treating this in FSX? Is there some sort of add-on (ATC?) that will simulate this and you can request info?
Do you just ignore this and fly through or always fly around these areas?

[JWNoctis]

As far as I know, stock ATC does not handle those, higher quality route plotters like PFPX and real routes from flightaware etc. will (usually)not route through them, while all /relevant/ rules will be respected if you fly on VATSIM or IVAO.

Still, most of these are out of scope for current flight simming, other than not flying through them without a good reason.

EDIT: Also note that FSX's airspace data is from 10 years ago, and even then not complete, so you'll need places like skyvector(free) or AIP of countries you plan to fly in(sometimes free, sometime paid, and sometimes no public access) for latest charts, should that be needed.

[Passero]

Thanks. i'm using skydemon (trial) for the route planning before I move it to plan g for FSX. This way I can plan using the latest data and it doesn't really matter that FSX has older data.
As long as the VOR's I'm using are available in FSX that should be fine, and even than I can look into plan g and make a similar plan using the data available.

I guess, for now I will fly around these areas.
I'm just wondering how it works in real life. Do most pilots not bother by requesting info and just fly around it? What if they can cut 20% of their planned trip by flying through, would they request info and fly through or still fly around?

Another question, any way of updating FSX with more recent airspace information?

[Ben Drinkin]

Originally posted by Passero:

Thanks. i'm using skydemon (trial) for the route planning before I move it to plan g for FSX. This way I can plan using the latest data and it doesn't really matter that FSX has older data.
As long as the VOR's I'm using are available in FSX that should be fine, and even than I can look into plan g and make a similar plan using the data available.

I guess, for now I will fly around these areas.
I'm just wondering how it works in real life. Do most pilots not bother by requesting info and just fly around it? What if they can cut 20% of their planned trip by flying through, would they request info and fly through or still fly around?

Another question, any way of updating FSX with more recent airspace information?

AFAIK VFR aircraft either go around the airspace, or in certain situations may request to enter it.

[JWNoctis]

There are no ways I know of to update airspace data, but for navaids, look here: http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html

Unfortunately applying that would break FSX's built-in routefinder - Not that hurts much when there's much better replacements, though.

[Passero]

Thanks for the link. Will have a look at it. I'm not using the in build finder. I always use an external tool like plan g or fsc or even plan my own route so that's not a big issue.

[mitsoswu]

There is an add-on that can add some sort of, a danger area around the globe, which is called
FS PASSENGERS.
there are some areas that .... if you try to fly through, for example: Syria ...
You will encounter some sort of "firing" at you, with some smoke explosions effects in front of you and such ..... and if they hit you though, ( well then, you are in deep $hit
my friend ... LOL )
you 'll probably lose your engines or something and get a fire effect on them .... then gradually you starting to lose height ... and slowly kissin your @ss goodbye .... ha ..

Yeah, it 's a good program (preaty realistic and hardcore) .
... totaly worth it in my opinion and i think
it costs something like 30 dollars or such.

here is the link if you want it:
http://www.fspassengers.com/

[Passero]

I already have FSP :)

Danger areas are not always danger so that was my initial question. For example in the south of England, there is a large danger area becuase the navy uses it for training however there isn't every day training so I was looking at a system that deals with the "not always". Something like ATC where I could request info about the danger zone so I know if there is a training or something else going on. If not, I can fly through without danger.

IRL pilots would call a designated phone line to request that info.

[D4Nl]

You can see danger/not allowed areas on some charts, they're usually drawn with red lines.

[Ben Drinkin]

PSA: https://skyvector.com/ is your friend. It also can be used for real-life flight planning, and has up-to-date sigmets, airmets, and notams. All sectionals are viewable, and you can also get the radio frequencies for many airports off there that can be used in FSX, as well as real life.

[SteveFSX/P3D]

Not exactly about danger areas, but I found this video pretty good ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t1YEKGW0ve8