Palm trees don't grow coconuts

[ForestDweller]

Has anyone noticed all the trees are labeled palm tree but they grow coconuts. Coconut trees grow cocconuts not palm trees. I know it is picky but it is a survival game that is supposed to be somwhat realistic. I am guessing the developers are not from the tropics. ;)

[fluxtorrent]

Brisbane, Australia.

And in truth a "coconut tree" IS a palm tree. The coconut tree is part of the Family: Arecaceae just like all other palm trees and are refered to as coconut palms rather than coconut trees.

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Cocos nucifera is a large palm, growing up to 30 m (98 ft) tall, with pinnate leaves 4–6 m (13–20 ft) long, and pinnae 60–90 cm long; old leaves break away cleanly, leaving the trunk smooth. Coconuts are generally classified into two general types: tall and dwarf.[6] On very fertile land, a tall coconut palm tree can yield up to 75 fruits per year, but more often yields less than 30, mainly due to poor cultural practices.[7][8][9] Given proper care and growing conditions coconut palms produce their first fruit in six to ten years, it takes 15 – 20 years to reach peak production.[10]

:D I learned new things today!

[ForestDweller]

I spent time on Puerto Rico and I was corrected when I pointed at a tree and said it was a coconut tree. I was told it was a variety of palm tree and does not grow coconuts. Typically the variet of palm tree that grows coconuts is just referred to as a coconut tree on tropical islands. So I still think the labeling is not very accurate. If it has coconuts it should be labeled as coconut tree.

[Skarmo]

Sometimes you are a Drake in disguise, Flux.

[fluxtorrent]

You've got a bit of a backwards loop going there. A coconut tree "is" a palm tree, but not all palm trees are coconut trees. Calling a coconut tree a palm is still true, it's a fact, not an opinion. It would be like calling all coniferous trees Pine trees. It would be wrong, but a pine tree is still coniferous.

[Omen3608]

Pine trees don't grow coconuts I think. You are totally wrong!

[Skarmo]

Pine palms? Never heard of that.

[fluxtorrent]

They are a rare breed found only in the Arctic Tropics

[ForestDweller]

Flux, I see your reasoning but it is not common in my experience in the tropics. In a similar vein of thinking one could walk around calling dogs, people, cats just animals but it would get confusing so people use more specific labels or we would have not way to differntiate items.

[Skarmo]

Originally posted by mark.bokil:

In a similar vein of thinking one could walk around calling dogs, people, cats just animals but it would get confusing so people use more specific labels ...

So what is more specific then: palm or tree?

[fluxtorrent]

Hmm, everywhere I've been refered to them as coconut palms, as opposed to latan palms or hamburg palms. Hell, for the most part I don't think i heard the word "tree" used at all in those regions. Palm was pretty much the norm, used interchangeable with tree with caveats.

Just like saying pine tree, maple tree, ect. So if we are going to be factual they would just have to relabel it coconut palm. However with no other palms to confuse it with is it even remotely necessary?

[niko]

You know, I have climbed up and down those palms several times, not once paying any attention to the label... because I simply wanted to know if there were in fact coconuts... which there were.

In any case, I'd really prefer a more specific label on the rocks. I mean, are they sedimentary, igneous, metamorphic? What's the deal?

[SoMeOnE_the_oDD]

Doesn't the semantic designation of said tree then depend on the cultural and societal upbringing of our character? In the absence of any distinct origins, can we not use the fact that so few people have questioned the term as evidence that the majority of players do refer to them as "palm trees"?

Flux, could we get a rundown on why yuccas in particular are used for basic ropes? Are they the only source of usable fibers or are they a temporary solution like potatoes?

[Sistermatic™]

I wouldn't give a toss if it was called a coconut lollipop.

Hang on..... brb. My cat is barking. Damn animal.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Skarmo:

Sometimes you are a Drake in disguise, Flux.

What is with my name being dropped lately? xD

But getting on topic, the terms "coconut palm" and "coconut tree" are used interchangably. The reason mark heard "coconut tree" used commonly in Puerto Rico might be attributed to dialect, and may be the preferred term there. But both are accepted common names of Cocos nucifera. Which as Flux said, is a member of the palm family of trees and shrubs.

[Tex]

So it's like "not all rectangles are squares, but all Omens are squares"?


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