Food spoilage

[BroknSpyrl]

I noticed some of my Green Coconuts I'd cut down were yellow a few days later. Can anyone confirm whether this is an indicator of food spoilage? If so, are there any foods that don't have visual cues like this?

Coconuts are the only food I've been bothering to stockpile, everything else I eat within a couple hours of harvesting/killing. Would be good to know I can rely on visual cues like this, and not go foraging day to day.

I'd prefer to not know the spoilage timespans, can figure that out myself, just looking for info on visual indicators. For both raw and cooked foods.

[fluxtorrent]

At this time there is no food spoilage

[BroknSpyrl]

Oh. Haha. Then why did my coconuts turn yellow? I'll have to look into this later. Thanks.

[fluxtorrent]

There are a few different coconut skins. I've never noticed any changing their existing skin but one of them does have a more yellow texture.

[BroknSpyrl]

That may be all it is. I just assumed they changed as the older pile was all yellow and the new one was all green. But that's two different islands worth. Sounds likely, thanks.

[Lusty]

Could be a great idea though to force player to optimize coconut collect :)

[Blightholtz]

I think the coconuts get a yellow:ish color from laying around in the sun without being attached to the palm tree.

[Omen3608]

There are green and orange coconuts in the save files though. Might be an indicator for future changes.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Omen3608:

There are green and orange coconuts in the save files though. Might be an indicator for future changes.

Possibly young vs. mature coconuts.
Young coconuts give coconut water, but have little to no coconut meat.
While mature coconuts have coconut meat, but instead of coconut water they have coconut milk.
Which coconut milk is a natural laxative, while you have to drink a lot more coconut water to get the laxative effect.

[Omen3608]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by Omen3608:

There are green and orange coconuts in the save files though. Might be an indicator for future changes.

Possibly young vs. mature coconuts.
Young coconuts give coconut water, but have little to no coconut meat.
While mature coconuts have coconut meat, but instead of coconut water they have coconut milk.
Which coconut milk is a natural laxative, while you have to drink a lot more coconut water to get the laxative effect.

That is not true, sorry.

Young coconuts have coconut water and a pudding like coconut meat, which is very nutritious and tasty.

older (brown) coconuts have less coconut water, and the well known hard coconut meat, which is still healthy, and tasty. It might be a problem for the survivors teeth after a longer while without brushing your teeth as well.

Coconut milk is the coconut water blended with brown coconut meat and water, so our survivor will most probably never run into it, except if we can build a mortar and pestle in the future.

[Drake]

@Omen3608
Sorry, you are correct.

Though mature coconuts' meat does have more calories and contain less liquid than young coconuts.

So in-game the young coconuts provide more hydration by drinking them, but less hunger satisfaction (given the lower calories in the meat per unit) by eating them. While the mature ones would have less liquid but provide more calories by eating it.

[Omen3608]

Originally posted by Drake:

@Omen3508
Sorry, you are correct.

Though mature coconuts' meat does have more calories and contain less liquid than young coconuts.

So in-game the young coconuts provide more hydration by drinking them, but less hunger satisfaction (given the lower calories in the meat per unit) by eating them. While the mature ones would have less liquid but provide more calories by eating it.

For an ingame mechanic I would sign that suggestion. :)

In real life it would work totally different, but this again is a margin where the devs would need to figure out total simulation vs having fun playing a game.

[Omen3608]

P.S.: My "surname" is 3608, not 3508. Not that I care, it's the same if I called you Dlake... people would know... :P

[Drake]

Originally posted by Omen3608:

Originally posted by Drake:

@Omen3508
Sorry, you are correct.

Though mature coconuts' meat does have more calories and contain less liquid than young coconuts.

So in-game the young coconuts provide more hydration by drinking them, but less hunger satisfaction (given the lower calories in the meat per unit) by eating them. While the mature ones would have less liquid but provide more calories by eating it.

For an ingame mechanic I would sign that suggestion. :)

In real life it would work totally different, but this again is a margin where the devs would need to figure out total simulation vs having fun playing a game.

How does it work differently? Not saying you are wrong. Just wondering the details.
As these were the statistics I pulled up:

From a 100g edible portion of coconut:

Originally posted by Secretariat of the Pacific Comm:

young/mature flesh
Energy (kcal) 77/389
Moisture (g) 84/50
Protein (g) 1.4/3.5
Fat (g) 3.6/39
Sugars (g) 10/4
Dietary fiber (g) 0.7/7.5
Potassium (mg) 257/360
Iron (mg) 1/1.1
Vitamin C (mg) 6/2

young/mature water
Energy (kcal) 16/22
Moisture (g) 97/92
Protein (g) 0/0.3
Fat (g) 0/0.2
Sugars (g) 4.1/5
Dietary fiber (g) 0/0
Potassium (mg) 0/310
Iron (mg) 1.1
Vitamin C (mg) 0/2

Apart from sugar and moisture the mature coconut has more nutrients, fats, and calories. While the moisture and sugar content of the young coconut is higher. Vitamin C is higher in young coconut flesh but higher in mature coconut water.

And sorry about the name, I knew what it was, but I must have hit the wrong key and didn't notice it. I went back to my previous post and corrected it. Though the mistype is still in the quote you took from me.

[Omen3608]

You can't take everything on a chemical level.

Green coconuts have up to 1 liter of water inside, and the flesh is very easy to digest for the human body, whereas a brown coconut has about half the amount of water, and the harder meat takes a lot more internal body work to pull out its goodness.

The main reason a brown coconut has more calories, is because the liquid inside starts to ferment, helping the meat to "grow", firming it,and transforming the already existing oil into calorie outtake. During that process it sadly kills a lot of the positive attributes the green coconut flesh had before. Also a reason where the laxative thing comes from.

Eating 200g of chicken breast will give you 150 kalories, while eating 200g of pork belly will give you around 600 kalories. Both should stop your hunger, as you eat the same amount of food. Decide yourself... ;

[Drake]

Originally posted by Omen3608:

You can't take everything on a chemical level.

Green coconuts have up to 1 liter of water inside, and the flesh is very easy to digest for the human body, whereas a brown coconut has about half the amount of water, and the harder meat takes a lot more internal body work to pull out its goodness.

The main reason a brown coconut has more calories, is because the liquid inside starts to ferment, helping the meat to "grow", firming it,and transforming the already existing oil into calorie outtake. During that process it sadly kills a lot of the positive attributes the green coconut flesh had before. Also a reason where the laxative thing comes from.

Eating 200g of chicken breast will give you 150 kalories, while eating 200g of pork belly will give you around 600 kalories. Both should stop your hunger, as you eat the same amount of food. Decide yourself... ;

Okay, that does make sense. You are saying that you get less nutrients from the mature coconut as a percentage, due to it's tougher structure. That does make sense. But even then, I would imagine you would probably get more calories from the mature coconut, even if in the longer run it is less healthy than the younger coconut flesh. Just do to it having 5x more calories and fat than the younger one.

Though your chicken to pork reference I don't think matches up with that. But now that I think of it, I suppose what you were getting at was the hunger alleviation faction rather than meeting the bodies energy needs. Which would make sense in both of your examples. Both would alleviate your hunger, as your stomach judges it's fullness by mass not nutritional content of the food inside it. But you would need to consume less of the pork over a period of time to meet your bodies calorie needs. But as an immediate relief your stomach wouldn't care in the short run.