Stranded Deep
TrashDragon Feb 23, 2015 @ 7:42am
Copyright Notice on YouTube
Hello everyone I recorded myself playing this fine game yesterday. I uploaded the videos to Youtube over night when i woke up one of the videos had a Copyright Notice. The notice is for the sound of the rain. It was specificatlly for "Sound Ideas-Medium Rain Falling on Pavement" sound recording administered by: The Orchard Music. Im posting this for two reasons 1. Is this a Legitimate Copyright Notice and 2. If it is, as a heads up for anyone else out there.
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fluxtorrent Feb 23, 2015 @ 9:04am 
No, it's not.
LadstonFelisGaming Feb 23, 2015 @ 10:36am 
Sounds like Youtube being stupid. Before I started college, I had a Let's Play going and I was using really bad recording methods. I went back through my old videos and was clearing them out when I noticed that I had a copyright claim on one of my older, crappier vids. Apparently I had some band's music in the video, when in reality it was just the sound of static. They do stuff like that all the time.
fluxtorrent Feb 23, 2015 @ 10:39am 
It's not youtube so much as the various production companies that use bots to search for their content.
Cosmo Feb 23, 2015 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by LaddytheOutcast:
Apparently I had some band's music in the video, when in reality it was just the sound of static.

Having heard some of the music lately I can see why it might have got confused :D


OMG, I have turned into my father, when did that happen O_O
Lonesome 77 Feb 23, 2015 @ 10:08pm 
The real question is...where is this pavement you have found in the game, off which the rain is resounding?
Hexerin (Banned) Feb 23, 2015 @ 10:31pm 
It honestly doesn't matter if it's legitimate or not, your YouTube account will get closed (and all content deleted permanently) with three strikes regardless. You should contact support immediately and get that cleared as soon as possible.
Mauri Feb 23, 2015 @ 11:27pm 
"I stole your rain sound. BuahhahHAHAHAAaa"

How very very evil. Definitely worth a notice.
Eedrah Feb 24, 2015 @ 2:57am 
LOL....I pictured some sound engineer guy watching your video, then he's all like "hey....that rain sound is MY CREATION! HOW DARE THEY STEAL MY ROYALTIES!!!!"
oskr13 - keep_on Feb 24, 2015 @ 4:08am 
Well, as it can be a wrong call from bots, I would recommend you, as Hexerin said, to clear anything wrond with your youtube account.

That said,

Originally posted by Rodso:
lol what a bunch of turds

You can't blame people to protect their work in any manners .

If a sound enginner spend time and money recording a sound, and sell his work somewhere, he definitly make the choicie to sell it instead of giving a royalty free/creative common licence.

It is too easy to download anything anywhere and use it without thinking one second at the author. Copyrights are here for that. Creative common too.

Copy - Rights... clear enough though...


TrashDragon Feb 24, 2015 @ 1:47pm 
Thanks everyone for commenting on this. I havent made it a public video yet. I would like to get this cleared up but dont really now how. All ive done so far is Acknowledge this is copy righted work. The only other thing i can do is file a dispute which if i did i'd likey lose and then the video is gone. But thats not the bad part its the 3 strike rule. If I unknowingly upload copyrighted work is it 3 Copyright Notice's and your out or 3 Failed Challenges and your out I dont know. But then it says even if i delete the videos it dosent matter. So if i upload the videos then they tell my HEY COPY RIGHTED WORK so i take it down it still counts. This whole thing is a mess and confusing.
Last edited by TrashDragon; Feb 24, 2015 @ 1:52pm
Hexerin (Banned) Feb 24, 2015 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by OTR_Gamer:
I havent made it a public video yet.
Literally doesn't matter as far as YouTube's account system is concerned (as idiotic as that is). Keeping it private could help if you have to take it through legal system(s) though, since it's impossible for you to make money on private videos and thus Copyright is legally irrelevant.

Sidenote: "Unlisted" is still public since anyone with the video's URL can see it.
Last edited by Hexerin; Feb 24, 2015 @ 2:21pm
w00ty Feb 24, 2015 @ 3:09pm 
repost it with a 'fair use non profit' description..... lol
Sistermatic™ Feb 24, 2015 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by Eedrah:
LOL....I pictured some sound engineer guy watching your video, then he's all like "hey....that rain sound is MY CREATION! HOW DARE THEY STEAL MY ROYALTIES!!!!"
That's about when God steps in and sends a Cease & Desist to the sound engineer me thinx.
TrashDragon Feb 25, 2015 @ 6:11am 
Good morning everyone I'm not sure what happened but I got up today and the Copyright Notices was gone from the video. I didnt do anything so I dont know.
Mystix Feb 25, 2015 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by OTR_Gamer:
Good morning everyone I'm not sure what happened but I got up today and the Copyright Notices was gone from the video. I didnt do anything so I dont know.

Good to know, as I was thinking to perhaps make more Let's Play vids of this game for my YouTube channel.

Anyways, (and though I'm certainly no Lawyer, nor know all of the ins and outs of the copyrights claims on YouTube - so of course it's good to research yourself. But in a lots of cases it's YouTube overlezlous bots, and they often make mistakes, or even in some cases a false claim of some greedy company / person issuing such claims on videos to content they have no rights to, but hoping the video-creator will be "scared" enough, or unconcerning enough, that they won't dispute the claim, so in that case, the nickels-&-dimes of ads revenues of that video would go to the false claimant if left unchallenged) if you do get a copyright notice on a video, it doesn't mean it's a "strike" yet.

Usually the way it works is if you go to dispute it, and if you're unable to provide proof of permission to use or proof that you have rights to use it (such as, some game Developers will post a notice somewhere on their page, giving people permission to make videos of their game for YouTube, for example, here's a Video Policy that Valve has posted about their games: http://www.valvesoftware.com/videopolicy.html ), and the claimant has I think 30 days to reply to a dispute... after the 30 days if the claimant does not continue to claim the copyright then the notice would be removed.

But if they come back within that 30 days to claim they have the copyright and reject the dispute, and if you decide to dispute it again without showing YouTube or parties that you have rights to use the content in your video, you may then get a "Strike" on your channel, and that means your video would get removed anyways I think, and you'd be stuck with a strike.

It works something like that. Basically, normally a copyright claim on one of your videos isn't a considered "strike", but it sometimes means that if you don't dispute it (but if you do, be prepared to show that you have permission to use the content), you may still be allowed to leave up your video, but then the company or person making the copyright claim may then be able to collect any and all ad-generated revenues from that video (even if, for example, perhaps you have a 30 minute long video, and you used 5 seconds of a copyrighted music, then the company / person claiming ownership to the copyrighted music would be able to still collect ALL the ad-revenue monies from that video).

Before, I've had a few of my videos get copyright notices (but fortunately no strikes), and I did dispute, and win, almost all of them. But one I thought I had the rights to use (it's a bit complicated to explain here, but I bought a music resource-pack for use with a game I'm making, which gives me the right to use that music in my game, but when I put the game-play video of my game on my channel with that certain music playing in the background, it gave me the copyright notice).

So, to avoid the hassles and waste of time, in that case I just removed the said music of that video and re-uploaded it. Also, for some games, I tend to turn down any music (all the way to 0, or just to mute / turn-off it if the option exists, and a lot of games will have such an option anyways), and in that way there's much less chance of some copyright claim due to music playing in the background, as even though some game-Developers may give permission to make game-play / let's-play / review, etc.. videos of their games, in some cases the music they may have used in their game could be from a 3rd party and copy-righted.

If the game-developer, of a game-play / let's-play video of a game you're playing, has a Video Policy page (such as the Valve video-policy page that I mentioned as an example) that allows people to make and post videos to sites like YouTube, then you can post that in the description of your video. If your video is commentary in nature (you're talking over the game-play), you could include something like; "*All copyrighted media is property of their respective owners. Video is commentary in nature, as defined under the 'Fair Use' policy of copyright".
I think in most cases, the Developers of Indie Developed Games don't mind, and often encourage and appreciate, YouTubers making game-play / let's-play vids of their game, as they realize it can be very good exposure and publicity for their games, thus that can equal many more sales of their game for them. Of course that's not always the case, so you might have to be prepared to remove some videos too if a Developer want to make and stick with a copyright claim (even though it may end up hurting their own potential sales and/or goodwill in the Community).

Sorry, I'm rambling on, and it does all get seem a bit complicated, and some falls into grey areas. Anyways, good luck. :)
Last edited by Mystix; Feb 25, 2015 @ 10:05pm
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