Smoker? Any ideas on how to make it work?

[Sininside]

Hey guys. I'm really trying to figure out this game and survive at least a month. But food and water are a big issue. Do any of you know how to use the smoker and what can be smoked? I've scoured youtube and no one seems to have the answers. And in game there is no activation for smoking things but instead the character eats everything. I'm really confused, any help would be awesome thanks.

[lucyrocketdog]

The smoker is very useful for smoking crabs. Once the crabs are smoked, they never seem to spoil.

To use the smoker, gather fresh crabs and dump them on the ground next to the smoker. Then use RMB to pick up each crab, and hold it in front of the smoker opening . Press LMB (still holding RMB)) and the crab will shoot into the smoker. You can fit lots of crabs in there.
Start the fire immediately, and keep it lit until it makes a "ding" sound. You may have to add another piece of driftwood along the way.

It takes a while to smoke things--it works overnight. so it takes that long.

[Japeye]

Firstly before your food can be smoked it needs to be cooked, once its cooked add it to the smoker and when its done you'll hear a buzzer noise and the food will be shown as smoked instead of cooked. It does take some time so be patient. Enjoy your banquet!!

[Zaphiey]

Originally posted by Kopite365:

Firstly before your food can be smoked it needs to be cooked, once its cooked add it to the smoker and when its done you'll hear a buzzer noise and the food will be shown as smoked instead of cooked. It does take some time so be patient. Enjoy your banquet!!

I have put fresh crab in there before and it smoked. I did put potato but it spoiled - though may have been because the fire went out. Will need to test a bit more.

[Omen3608]

All fish, shark meat, and crabs should be smokable. There is NO need to cook them beforehand. Just be aware that smoking takes a while and food can spoil while still in the process of being smoked.

[lucyrocketdog]

Originally posted by Kopite365:

Firstly before your food can be smoked it needs to be cooked, once its cooked add it to the smoker and when its done you'll hear a buzzer noise and the food will be shown as smoked instead of cooked. It does take some time so be patient. Enjoy your banquet!!

You do not have to cook the crabs before you smoke them--I never pre-cook the crabs and it works each time. But as you say it takes a long time ..

[Omen3608]

Potatoes need to be cooked to be edible.

A water collector needs two buckets. One with saltwater on the lower side and an empty one on top (an empty drinkable coconut should work as well). This will collect the condensated fresh water and show you how full it is via the "drop -meter".

The water still will give you a continous supply of fresh water, using only on bucket and a tarp, but it takes a lot longer to collect water.

Just boiling down salt water now does what it would do in real life, make the water more salty and dehydrate you even more (I think it doesn't actually dehydrate you even more than not boiling it, but you know what I mean). ;)

Hope that helps. :)

[Sininside]

Thanks Omen

[Japeye]

Originally posted by lucyrocketdog:

Originally posted by Kopite365:

Firstly before your food can be smoked it needs to be cooked, once its cooked add it to the smoker and when its done you'll hear a buzzer noise and the food will be shown as smoked instead of cooked. It does take some time so be patient. Enjoy your banquet!!

You do not have to cook the crabs before you smoke them--I never pre-cook the crabs and it works each time. But as you say it takes a long time ..

Apologies - thanks for putting me right:)

[dragonstryk72]

Originally posted by Omen3608:

Potatoes need to be cooked to be edible.

I've eaten raw potato before, several times, and while I can't recommend the taste, they're edible. Certainly not poisonous on the level the game has decided they are, cause I mean, seriously, we'd never have started planting them otherwise.

It needs to go back to where every so often you hit a bad raw potato, not every single one is a poison that must be cooked to detox it.

[I-o-IPositive7]

Looks like this tropical islands have lots of E.coli and Salmonella :)
While you can eat raw potato it is highly recommended to cook it before eating to get rid of most bacteria.

In-game potatoes are "Wild potatoes" which contains solanine and other toxins, bacteria. Solanine causes diarrhea, nausea, cramping, headaches and in extreme cases organ failure and death.
You must never eat wild potato raw if it can be avoided . If you have to eat raw wild potatoes never eat the skin (after eating it raw hurry to a hospital for a good stomach wash). :)

Regards,
A Chef

[dragonstryk72]

Originally posted by I-o-IPositive7:

Looks like this tropical islands have lots of E.coli and Salmonella :)
While you can eat raw potato it is highly recommended to cook it before eating to get rid of most bacteria.

In-game potatoes are "Wild potatoes" which contains solanine and other toxins, bacteria. Solanine causes diarrhea, nausea, cramping, headaches and in extreme cases organ failure and death.
You must never eat wild potato raw if it can be avoided . If you have to eat raw wild potatoes never eat the skin (after eating it raw hurry to a hospital for a good stomach wash). :)

Regards,
A Chef

A wild potato is RARELY toxic, as in, "NOT 100% of the time". Again, no one would have cultivated fields of a known, 100% poisonous plant as a food source.

Glycoalkaloids may cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps, and in severe cases coma and death; however, poisoning from potatoes occurs very rarely.

VERY RARELY, see?

Light exposure causes greening from chlorophyll synthesis, thus giving a visual clue as to areas of the tuber that may have become more toxic

And secondly, they're identifiable as being toxic.

Regards,
Lifelong Camper, Cook, Boy Scout, Former Sailor, and all around person that has been in survival situations an number times, and knows the difference between edible and inedible plants.

[I-o-IPositive7]

A wild potato is RARELY toxic

Where did you get this?

Glycoalkaloids may cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps, and in severe cases coma and death; however, poisoning from potatoes occurs very rarely.

True, but not for wild potatoes.

Potato (Solanum tuberosum). Potatoes contain toxic compounds known as glycoalkaloids, of which the most prevalent are solanine and chaconine. Solanine is also found in other members of the Solanaceae plant family, which includes Atropa belladonna ("deadly nightshade") and Hyoscyamus niger ("henbane") (see entries below). The concentration of glycoalkaloid in wild potatoes is sufficient to produce toxic effects in humans. The toxin affects the nervous system, causing headaches, diarrhea and intense digestive disturbances, cramps, weakness and confusion, and in severe cases coma and death. Poisoning from cultivated potatoes occurs very rarely, however, as toxic compounds in the potato plant are generally concentrated in the green portions of the plant and in the fruits, and cultivated varieties contain smaller concentrations than wild plants.[16][17] Cooking at high temperatures (over 170 °C or 340 °F) also partly destroys the toxin. However, exposure to light, physical damage, and age can increase glycoalkaloid content within the tuber,[18] the highest concentrations occurring just underneath the skin. Tubers that are exposed to light turn green from chlorophyll synthesis, thus giving a visual clue as to areas of the tuber that may have become more toxic; however, this does not provide a definitive guide, as greening and glycoalkaloid accumulation can occur independently of each other. Some varieties of potato contain greater glycoalkaloid concentrations than others; breeders developing new varieties test for this, and sometimes have to discard an otherwise promising cultivar. Breeders try to keep solanine levels below 200 mg/kg (200 ppmw). However, when these commercial varieties turn green, even they can approach concentrations of solanine of 1000 mg/kg (1000 ppmw). The U.S. National Toxicology Program suggests that the average American consume no more than 12.5 mg/day of solanine from potatoes (the toxic dose is actually several times this, depending on body weight).

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poisonous_plants

And we still didn't mention E.coli and Salmonella :D

[dragonstryk72]

Originally posted by I-o-IPositive7:

A wild potato is RARELY toxic

Where did you get this?

Glycoalkaloids may cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps, and in severe cases coma and death; however, poisoning from potatoes occurs very rarely.

True, but not for wild potatoes.

Potato (Solanum tuberosum). Potatoes contain toxic compounds known as glycoalkaloids, of which the most prevalent are solanine and chaconine. Solanine is also found in other members of the Solanaceae plant family, which includes Atropa belladonna ("deadly nightshade") and Hyoscyamus niger ("henbane") (see entries below). The concentration of glycoalkaloid in wild potatoes is sufficient to produce toxic effects in humans. The toxin affects the nervous system, causing headaches, diarrhea and intense digestive disturbances, cramps, weakness and confusion, and in severe cases coma and death. Poisoning from cultivated potatoes occurs very rarely, however, as toxic compounds in the potato plant are generally concentrated in the green portions of the plant and in the fruits, and cultivated varieties contain smaller concentrations than wild plants.[16][17] Cooking at high temperatures (over 170 °C or 340 °F) also partly destroys the toxin. However, exposure to light, physical damage, and age can increase glycoalkaloid content within the tuber,[18] the highest concentrations occurring just underneath the skin. Tubers that are exposed to light turn green from chlorophyll synthesis, thus giving a visual clue as to areas of the tuber that may have become more toxic; however, this does not provide a definitive guide, as greening and glycoalkaloid accumulation can occur independently of each other. Some varieties of potato contain greater glycoalkaloid concentrations than others; breeders developing new varieties test for this, and sometimes have to discard an otherwise promising cultivar. Breeders try to keep solanine levels below 200 mg/kg (200 ppmw). However, when these commercial varieties turn green, even they can approach concentrations of solanine of 1000 mg/kg (1000 ppmw). The U.S. National Toxicology Program suggests that the average American consume no more than 12.5 mg/day of solanine from potatoes (the toxic dose is actually several times this, depending on body weight).

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poisonous_plants

And we still didn't mention E.coli and Salmonella :D

Wikipedia, oddly enough. MAY CAUSE, notice it doesn't say WILL CAUSE, just MAY CAUSE, as in, not all of them.

Again, why on God's green and verdant Earth would we ever cultivate potatoes if they're 100% poisonous all the time? Answer me that

[I-o-IPositive7]

Read again the wild potato part :P The "May cause" part is a quote from your post and not from wiki.

[Omen3608]

Originally posted by dragonstryk72:

Again, why on God's green and verdant Earth would we ever cultivate potatoes if they're 100% poisonous all the time? Answer me that

Wild potatoes are wild potatoes because they are growing wild. The cultivated variants are being constantly cross-bread to try keeping the toxic solanine[en.wikipedia.org] levels low.

This is common knowledge for a chef and is also being explained by the Wikipedia entry. Wild potatoes in general are not at all comparable to the ones you buy in a supermarket, many of which can be eaten raw (but still shouldn't be).

The solanine in many kinds wild potatoes has a high enough level to cause serious damage to your body and is highly temperature resistant as well. Boiling the potatoes washes most of this substance out, it is not destroyed though, so even drinking the water later could make you sick.

If you want more information, or don't believe another chef, backing up a colleague, I bet a simple google search about potatoes will give you all the answers out there. ;)