Catching rain?

[Knowmad]

I have a tarp, sticks, lashing, but no way to create a rain catcher. Its been pouring in my game and i need to cut down trees to drink. Am i missing something here?

[lucyrocketdog]

You can use the fiber bundles to feed the water still, so you don't need to cut down trees to get water.
The game doesn't let you put stuff out to "collect" rainwater. I think the rain replenishes the gardens, and it helps fill the water stills a little bit. The devs didn't want to make it too easy on us. ;)
edited to correct something.

[Knowmad]

Originally posted by lucyrocketdog:

You can use the fiber bundles to feed the water collector, so you don't need to cut down trees to get water.
The game doesn't let you put stuff out to "collect" rainwater. I think the rain replenishes the gardens, but I'm not sure if it helps fill the water collectors. The devs didn't want to make it too easy on us. ;)

Thats completely moronic.
Tarp, check.
Sticks, check.
Lashings, check.
Severe rain storm, check.
Water collector... no, just no.

Its not difficult its just a pain in the ass. You would only use a condensation collector when your in an arid area like a desert. This is a false sense of difficulty.

[Knightmare]

I can confirm the water stills do collect rain water, I have several around my base that I intentionally keep the water still fiber area empty just for the purpose of collecting rain water (it does).

[Knowmad]

Originally posted by Knightmare:

I can confirm the water stills do collect rain water, I have several around my base that I intentionally keep the water still fiber area empty just for the purpose of collecting rain water (it does).

Just had two rain storms and it dd not fill up.

[Knightmare]

I don't know what you are doing different than me, I am a new player myself ~20 hours in and I have 15 water stills, 4 of which I "fuel" with fibrous leaves, the other 11 get filled by rainstorms to the brim and I empty most of them out on the crops and drink some myself before I dip into the 4 that are generating water from the fiber.

[Snifferdog]

They do get filled up during storms, i believe its something like 1 bar a hour during the rain.

[lucyrocketdog]

snifferdog is correct, the rainstorm has to last long enough for you to see a change in the water levels.

[Gladi8er65]

Originally posted by Hannibal:

I have a tarp, sticks, lashing, but no way to create a rain catcher. Its been pouring in my game and i need to cut down trees to drink. Am i missing something here?

Rainstorms are basically an immersion element or "atmosphere" and not intended to be a source of drinking water.

Catching a little bit of rain in your water still or garden plot is just a "bonus" of the rainstorm (if it lasts long enough), but should NOT be counted on to keep you alive.

Build several (2-3 or more) water stills and keep them stocked up with fibrous leaves (gathered from Yucca and small palm plants) and you will have plenty of drinking water over the course of the game. Yucca and small palm plants re-spawn in 2 days, whereas Palm trees do not EVER re-spawn.

While we are talking about fibrous leaves, I should point out that not only can they be used in water stills, but you can also use them as "fuel source" in camp fire / smokers by burning them...

Since fibrous leaves provide an endless supply of water and fire, you only really need to cut down trees to use for CRAFTING, and, unless you want to live on a completely tree-less island, simply travel to nearby islands to harvest them and leave your home island "pristine" and "green"

[Knowmad]

Originally posted by Gladi8er65:

Originally posted by Hannibal:

I have a tarp, sticks, lashing, but no way to create a rain catcher. Its been pouring in my game and i need to cut down trees to drink. Am i missing something here?

Rainstorms are basically an immersion element or "atmosphere" and not intended to be a source of drinking water.

Yeah cause why would you want a game based on survival to use basic elements like catching rain water? Why dont they have us harvest water from stones by squeezing them?

[fluxtorrent]

Average annual rainfall in Honolulu is 433mm. Recommended daily intake is 64 ounces (1892.72 ml) of water. In a cubic millimeter of water there is .001 ml of water.

So the daily rainfall average on a well known pacific island is 1.18630r mm per day.
In order to collect 1 ml of water you need 850 mm2 of collection area. In order to collect a daily ration of water a day you would need 1,608,812 mm2 collection area.

Lets put that into perspective.

You would need a square area 80.4406 Meters in length and width. Thats almost as tall as the statue of liberty, and far wider.

And of course thats assuming rainfall was nice enough to spread itself out like that for you over the course of a year. It's not.

Good luck surviving on rainfall :P

[Omen3608]

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

... You would need a square area 80.4406 Meters in length and width. Thats almost as tall as the statue of liberty, and far wider. ...

We need bigger islands! \o/

Lol! ;)

[Knightmare]

Honestly I do fine with the amount of rainfall I get, I only need to refill only 4 of my water stills with fiber once every few days if that, but then again I have 15 water stills, if I built 5-10 more I could probably go completely without filling them up imo, I wouldn't last 20 days without rainfall but a week I can do.

[Knowmad]

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

Average annual rainfall in Honolulu is 433mm. Recommended daily intake is 64 ounces (1892.72 ml) of water. In a cubic millimeter of water there is .001 ml of water.

So the daily rainfall average on a well known pacific island is 1.18630r mm per day.
In order to collect 1 ml of water you need 850 mm2 of collection area. In order to collect a daily ration of water a day you would need 1,608,812 mm2 collection area.

Lets put that into perspective.

You would need a square area 80.4406 Meters in length and width. Thats almost as tall as the statue of liberty, and far wider.

And of course thats assuming rainfall was nice enough to spread itself out like that for you over the course of a year. It's not.

Good luck surviving on rainfall :P

So i live in an area that gets the around the same rainfall as Hawaii, perhaps even less. In one storm I easily fill 2 55 gallon drums of rain water from the roof runoff.

Considering in the game you can build huge homes, with metal roofing, and you get tarps and metal barrels. You can easily, easily, craft a rain gutter system to fill these barrels quickly.

You threw out facts, that may or may not be accurate, but the game has the resources to catch this water, they just refuse to allow you to do so for a false sense of difficulty.

People catch rain this way all over the world, in various biomes. So your arguing against a tried and true method of survival.

Just admit the game is set against you collecting rain water a realistic way to make the game more difficult.

Thats the problem with survival games, you dont know if your a game, or a simulator, and you claim your either or when its convenient.

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by Hannibal:

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

Average annual rainfall in Honolulu is 433mm. Recommended daily intake is 64 ounces (1892.72 ml) of water. In a cubic millimeter of water there is .001 ml of water.

So the daily rainfall average on a well known pacific island is 1.18630r mm per day.
In order to collect 1 ml of water you need 850 mm2 of collection area. In order to collect a daily ration of water a day you would need 1,608,812 mm2 collection area.

Lets put that into perspective.

You would need a square area 80.4406 Meters in length and width. Thats almost as tall as the statue of liberty, and far wider.

And of course thats assuming rainfall was nice enough to spread itself out like that for you over the course of a year. It's not.

Good luck surviving on rainfall :P

So i live in an area that gets the around the same rainfall as Hawaii, perhaps even less. In one storm I easily fill 2 55 gallon drums of rain water from the roof runoff.

Considering in the game you can build huge homes, with metal roofing, and you get tarps and metal barrels. You can easily, easily, craft a rain gutter system to fill these barrels quickly.

You threw out facts, that may or may not be accurate, but the game has the resources to catch this water, they just refuse to allow you to do so for a false sense of difficulty.

People catch rain this way all over the world, in various biomes. So your arguing against a tried and true method of survival.

Just admit the game is set against you collecting rain water a realistic way to make the game more difficult.

Thats the problem with survival games, you dont know if your a game, or a simulator, and you claim your either or when its convenient.

Actually I'm arguing that the level of rain collection they allow is accurate. The water sill DOES collect rainwater. So do the gardens. If you are looking for an object specific to collecting rain water post in the suggestions forum about it.

edit: It does look like my math was off a bit, 2am will do that, its more like 8.04406 meter sides. Hence why your roof (a larger collection area) is more effective than my math showed.

[Knowmad]

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

Originally posted by Hannibal:

So i live in an area that gets the around the same rainfall as Hawaii, perhaps even less. In one storm I easily fill 2 55 gallon drums of rain water from the roof runoff.

Considering in the game you can build huge homes, with metal roofing, and you get tarps and metal barrels. You can easily, easily, craft a rain gutter system to fill these barrels quickly.

You threw out facts, that may or may not be accurate, but the game has the resources to catch this water, they just refuse to allow you to do so for a false sense of difficulty.

People catch rain this way all over the world, in various biomes. So your arguing against a tried and true method of survival.

Just admit the game is set against you collecting rain water a realistic way to make the game more difficult.

Thats the problem with survival games, you dont know if your a game, or a simulator, and you claim your either or when its convenient.

Actually I'm arguing that the level of rain collection they allow is accurate. The water sill DOES collect rainwater. So do the gardens. If you are looking for an object specific to collecting rain water post in the suggestions forum about it.

edit: It does look like my math was off a bit, 2am will do that, its more like 8.04406 meter sides. Hence why your roof (a larger collection area) is more effective than my math showed.

How did you measure the rainfall in game accurately and then compare it to the area they are based in? Honestly I think your spewing facts with absolutely no base. But honestly at this point I could care less. Ive purchased other survival games I find to be far more accurate as well as fun. So if you enjoy this, go for it.