Mod to fix generator bug?

[Jeff Kaos]

I just bought the game and started playing it today and when I got to the level where you have to destroy the Rail Gun I encountered a bug where the generator doesn't mask gunshots. I did some research and discovered that this is an old bug and I was wondering since the devs don't seem to care about fixing it if there's a mod out there that does?

[~]

No mods.

[Rydall]

the life cycle of this game is over, its been a year and if it was going to get fixed , it would have been sorry.
there has not been any patchs or updates for the last 6 months.

[RadarLuv]

I think that Rebellion is only concerned about making money and not so much a Quallity game.

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

There are no "mods" for the game, other than unapproved hacks (cheats).

[avantech]

The game is quite good, but the devs should be forced to correct these obvious bugs.

Apart from unabashed greed, that's the problem with this industry: devs deliver whatever they want, whenever they want, with complete impunity. Customers accept anything.

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

Originally posted by avantech:

The game is quite good, but the devs should be forced to correct these obvious bugs.

Apart from unabashed greed, that's the problem with this industry: devs deliver whatever they want, whenever they want, with complete impunity. Customers accept anything.

First, these games are just games for our amusement/recreation, and not critical systems of our lives. In my opinion you were overreacting a little.

Second, I will use "The Elder Scrolls" series as an example. They became fan favorites among a large portion of PC gamers, despite being very buggy to the point that many players couldn't even finish the game without using mods (or "console commands" - cheats) to fix the bugs. Is this a good thing? No. But nevertheless it proves that games need not be bug-free in order to be among the top-rated games. Given this reality, there is little pressure on game developers to completely debug their game. Sadly, this is the case, I don't like it either, but it's the way it is.

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

Originally posted by SHADOW:

Originally posted by RadarLuv>XI<:

I think that Rebellion is only concerned about making money and not so much a Quallity game.

Not so they are and do look into things this was the Tank fix quote and there was another in the SE3 forums concerning coop games.
this below is in this se4 forum
Rebellion Community [developer] 2 Mar, 2017 @ 12:56pm
This should be fixed shortly.

Yeah did you notice that date? That was over a year ago. Obviously it's not going to be fixed (which I have already posted about above).

Comment: I think this is one of the highest quality PC games I have ever owned, despite the "SE4Dxxx.exe has stopped working" bug about once a week, and I have owned hundreds of them (but see my post 3 posts above). And that bug is MUCH more annoying since it kills the entire game when you are hosting MP, for ALL the MP players in that game.

[~]

Originally posted by HalloweenWeed:

Originally posted by SHADOW:

Not so they are and do look into things this was the Tank fix quote and there was another in the SE3 forums concerning coop games.
this below is in this se4 forum
Rebellion Community [developer] 2 Mar, 2017 @ 12:56pm
This should be fixed shortly.

Yeah did you notice that date? That was over a year ago. Obviously it's not going to be fixed (which I have already posted about above).

yep my bad , i will blame it on Beer,

[avantech]

Originally posted by HalloweenWeed:

Games are just for our amusement/recreation, and not critical systems of our lives.

Games are a product like any other. We pay for them in real money, not play money.

Each of us may value a product differently: for some it can be life-changing, for others indifferent. But rules and laws must apply to all. If you buy a faulty phone or computer, you return it.

The gaming industry, however, seems to exist in a vaccum, a different world from any other business. Its customers tolerate anything, and even defend the devs against criticism.

They seem to think of them as passionate geeks, almost doing us a favour. In reality this is highly paid, billion dollar industry, larger than movies and music combined. Each of these big games makes tens or hundreds of millions. They should certainly fix all bugs.

[Rydall]

just to add, the same same was in se3 and now in se4, the devs have moved on to the next release, the next product, everything costs money and to make someone dev a old game, is not cost affective, so you just need to deal with it like we all did and move on..
are you happy..maybe not, but its how it is in the game indistry

[avantech]

Originally posted by SPH RYDALL:

you just need to deal with it like we all did and move on.

See, that's the problem, Rydall: too many people "deal with it" like conformed sheep - I mean no offense to you - instead of acting as paying customers, like they would in any other product.

Why should SE4, a good game, and not a cheap one, stay with such an ugly bug? It's no detail, it affects gameplay a lot. If it also happens in SE3 (I only have 1 and 2), even worse!

This is the impunity I was talking about. It must stop. We need better laws.

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

Originally posted by avantech:

such an ugly bug? It's no detail, it affects gameplay a lot. If it also happens in SE3 (I only have 1 and 2), even worse!

This is the impunity I was talking about. It must stop. We need better laws.

First, how much of the entire gameplay does it affect? "A lot," I don't agree. The game includes 6 initial campaign maps, and was it 5 more DLC maps? And how may maps are affected? 2? Not only that, in my experience it was just a couple of places on each of these maps. In terms of gameplay, I spent 2-3 months on the single-player maps, and then over a year on multiplayer. Meaning for me the single-player experience was only 6.25% (approximately) of my experience, and of that percent only about 0.5% of my experience was affected by the bug cited, which comes to 0.03125% affected IMO. Sorry, but that's not even close to "a lot." And that's not even considering just how much (%) of each map was affected.

Second, laws mean nothing without the weight of law enforcement (& courts) behind them, and I for one don't think the taxpayers are going to want to pay (slightly) more taxes for better laws & enforcement for game issues. Not only that, I think the legislature has MUCH more important issues that need addressing from the lawmaking standpoint, such a Internet issues and nuisance phone calls from advertising/marketing. Even if we did have better laws, what are we going to do if they are made abroad (as is this case)? Ban the game in the US? I don't think that's the solution either. You can't enforce our laws on other nations. Or perhaps you are in UK? Still the same thought is applicable, tough laws would result in much more games made outside our nations, including the AAA titles, and the laws would have very minor results otherwise.

[avantech]

Originally posted by HalloweenWeed:

How may maps are affected? 2? In terms of gameplay, I spent 2-3 months on the single-player maps, and then over a year on multiplayer.

To me, the sound masking bug seems to happen everywhere. First it looked random, as you progress it becomes more frequent.

Multiplayer: that's your case; I don't play MP at all. A lot of people don't. Even if many do, the bug still exists and it is game-breaking, since it severely hinders sniping.

Laws: we need to see games as products, which must comply to certain rules, warranties, etc. Each country has its laws, but Steam is a common ground - it could start here. Steam should have to enforce those rules. Right now they get billions and do nothing.

I've just revived two threads over a year old about the same bug. Nothing changed.

[Janis]

My solution was to quicksave, go to the main menu, load the save and the masking worked again.

[Dec]

I experienced the generator bug in five of the levels during my Marksman playthrough. I still have three of the save files. I put off playing on the higher difficulty levels, hoping it'd be fixed. I'd love someone to make a mod or even a way to fix our save files so the generators work again. I love the game apart from this bug.