Environmental kills not registering - ZH-29

[Nickingb]

Hi, I am busy trying to upgrade my ZH-29, I explode truck petrol tanks, drop cranes on soldiers, blow up petrol cans all killing soldiers and it shows my progress as 0. I have completed upgrade ZOOM and almost finished STABILITY, but for some reason the environmental kills do not work for me. I have tried cadet, regular, expert on multiple missions and it does not work. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Thanks.

[Pig Mac]

Just start the first misstion, Cadet is the easiest for unlocking, shoot the first 'droppable' object on the target, if it says infanty killed (wait until he's under it) check if you got it raised, before you start climbing. if it didn't count then something is wrong.
Else continue to the first tower, climb it and save. Shoot the object above the guy close to the officer, get another one? then let the xp come in, and load your last manual save, Should be enough with 8 times if you got those 2 kills counted.

[Nickingb]

I followed your instructions and it worked, finally got my upgrade :) I was using DEATHSTORM 1 : INCEPTION mission and it would not work, I dropped stuff on trucks, soldiers -trucks and soldiers together -nothing... Thanks Pigmachine

[Pig Mac]

Glad it helped. Maybe the DLC's don't count the same way for unlocking? Is to, strange!

Every weapon can be stat maxed on first mission, and it's still my favourite mission anyway,
The 'Ricochet kills' can be quite hard with some weapons, as they need quite a few to unlock.
But if you don't bother to have 500+ 'cover blown' in your roster, you can always do it from the first tower. Just trigger them to come running, and try to get a ricochet kill or two after they passed the stair, then just sit in the tower, and wait for them to come up one by one, and just shoot the stone close the the ladder in a good angle, and you nail them with a ricochet kill.
Can also be done with the save and load way.
It's almost a bit like cheating, and I had no clue about it before I unlocked my first full setup. But it's still quite a bit of time spent.

[Nickingb]

I will try doing a few upgrades on the first mission like you suggest. Got a lot of ricochet kills on mission 2 with the save and load way. It is cheating but not really, games have had this in them since a long time. In 1987 Leisure suit Larry came out and you had to win enough money on the black jack machines in the casino. The only way to do this (as the programming had the cards you get randomized) was to save before each deal and get wins or 21 for each hand, else you could not progress the game. I really like Sniper Elite 4 and paid for it along with the season pass for DLC, which I guess has some problems. I am at 51% of game completion. Have you finished the overwatch achievements?

[Pig Mac]

Hehe. I loved the first Larry games.. "Sorry you forgot to use a condom 10 hours ago, with no save, now you died from aids" They were a bit too punishing to the player and the poor Larry, even in the long term consequences.

I remember checking through the code on one of the old text only games, and it were programmed to give a -1 reward for your bet.

I haven't played any Co-Op at all yet. Still trying to get used to playing without the 'aim assist dot'
As I found my loadout of choice, I better get used to it at different ranges.

I have only Peeked into the Deathstorm missions, and they seem pretty nicely done. I were looking for the spot to snipe over 400 meters on obliteration, to unlock the silly helmet char, but found the trenchgun next to a sniper, and got distracted maxing it out, only to find no use whatever for it anyway :)

[Pig Mac]

Nice thanks Shadow!.. I'll give it a check later, I were around 380m and were working my way forward.. then suddenly found a sniper and the trenchgun just in the room before him. So there I unlocked it and got sidetracked ;)

I'm so used to being 'Lucio' by now that everything else would feel odd, and I don't think the AI make any difference in what comor camo you wear, or do they?

[Nickingb]

Originally posted by Pigmachine:

Hehe. I loved the first Larry games.. "Sorry you forgot to use a condom 10 hours ago, with no save, now you died from aids" They were a bit too punishing to the player and the poor Larry, even in the long term consequences.

I remember checking through the code on one of the old text only games, and it were programmed to give a -1 reward for your bet.

I haven't played any Co-Op at all yet. Still trying to get used to playing without the 'aim assist dot'
As I found my loadout of choice, I better get used to it at different ranges.

I have only Peeked into the Deathstorm missions, and they seem pretty nicely done. I were looking for the spot to snipe over 400 meters on obliteration, to unlock the silly helmet char, but found the trenchgun next to a sniper, and got distracted maxing it out, only to find no use whatever for it anyway :)

Oh yes I remember that AIDS death. I saw an achievement for killing a sniper with a trench gun (I must still do this) I finished the 3 stone eagles per mission today for that achievement. Found a map & 2min youtube vids, ran and did not fight enemies which gets the wins fairly quickly. I did coop for death storm 1, good fun playing with a person and not AI. If you want to get those two achievements (I need death storm 2) then let’s do a coop for them. Going to look into this long distance sniping you are talking about.

[zOldBulldog]

Funny. I was also upgrading the ZH29 on Inception. And yes, environmental explosives were definitely not registering. I did get a crane drop that counted though. Same thing for explosions in the Fuhrer mission... they did not register as environmental, but I think the boat mine did count. Definitely some bugs there.

But thanks for the thread. I think I'll go to the first main mission and get those environmentals out of the way.

EDIT: Bleargh... nope, explosions are not counting as environmental at all, not even in the main mission. Also, the drop in the first mission... is before you can save/reload. Annoying.

Given that... which mission has the most environmentals?

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

Those are disabled if you use "custom" difficulty.

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by Shadow:

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Funny. I was also upgrading the ZH29 on Inception. And yes, environmental explosives were definitely not registering. I did get a crane drop that counted though. Same thing for explosions in the Fuhrer mission... they did not register as environmental, but I think the boat mine did count. Definitely some bugs there.

But thanks for the thread. I think I'll go to the first main mission and get those environmentals out of the way.

EDIT: Bleargh... nope, explosions are not counting as environmental at all, not even in the main mission. Also, the drop in the first mission... is before you can save/reload. Annoying.

Given that... which mission has the most environmentals?

Just do San Celini Island , yes you cannot save before the first Crate drop i think a that bit was after all the tutorial bit of the map , go for the second crate drop , Manual save just before you shoot , shoot the crate drop then reload from the manual save ,
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1621144913
btw theres also the massive upgrade there of Multi Kills , Sound Masked kills , ect: here just shoot the explosives near the camera near the truck
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1621148035
You can also go the the point of the second crate drop and get penitrative kills using the the wooden shed there, first screen shot , a shot through the wood gives a shot tag / bullet tag on the soldier

Got sidetracked, but I think I will try this on the Fuhrer mission today. A sub drop can kill 2-3, the Eagle several. And you can get in position for those shots quite quickly.

A a matter of fact, even though I was not impressed by the Fuhrer mission per se, it is turning out to be a good one for weapon upgrades, and I can get one "kill Hitler" challenge done in each of those runs... 2 birds with one stone.

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by Shadow:

The above i posted can be 10 birds with 1 stone and what you said in that Map ? Nar by the time you have messed about doing all that in that map, easier in above

It worked like a charm in Fuhrer. Got the environmental for the ZH-29, then the lung shots (since it has lots of easily seen targets), ricochets for a pistol, nailed Hiltler with the torpedoes and something else I needed... all in one pass. The Fuhrer mission is so much more fun when used to do a challenge + weapon upgrades than the first run through. Good map to do funky stuff in.

Oh, and I probably should mention that I typically prefer to do weapons upgrades in a playthrough rather than the save/reload method. I think I only used the save/reload for kidneys, because they are so annoying to get.

As a side-note... the ZH-29 might be recognized as one of the best PvP rifles (not sure why) but I am totally hating it in SP, it often fails to kill in one shot when targeting an organ (other than the head).

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by Shadow:

It probably is and carries 20 magazine but admins some players do not see that it can fire really fast, one accused me of a Ammo hack :) lol and got banned from one server for using it because also think i have ammo hack

Ah LOL. So the real way of using it is to fire 2-3 shots in rapid succession. Right? (I can see that working really good in PvP)

[Frogzilla]

Strange, i'm having the same issue. No matter what environmental kill, will not register. Several maps now.

[LobVapor]

I had similar problems upgrading ZH-29, no environmental explosives would register.

Then I tried killing with crane drops, and they all worked for me (first mission, not custom difficulty).

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

Are you using custom difficulty (don't)?