Sniper game mechanics...

[Shane]

why do they always sux .. ?

as if enemies would ignore an explosing truck just because an airplane flys overhead and therefore didnt hear the gunshot, just waltz around like nothings happened meters from there location what was that dave, nothing the truck just blew up mate... ah okay i thought it might have been an attack, nope mate just the truck...

or when you miss a shot and the soldier runs for cover fully convinced he is under attack, hides behind the wall and within a few moments just ups and talks himself out of danger are ♥♥♥♥ it must have been the wind, back to walking up and down the path. hey sarg!! are you okay, yes you moron its just the wind.

honestly there is nothing more immersion killing than a flipping sniper game, more so when its just as bloody easy to run around COD style and machine gun everything in sight and to add insult to injury the devs of every sniper game always have crap like the most realitic snipe game ever made, the most immersive sniper experience short of the armed forces

it is nothing short of soul destroying junk everytime i convince myself it will be different with this one, it never is... i just sit on this ledge taking pot shots every few minutes when a plane flies over to hell with whether i miss nor hit, it wont matter everything is back in place by the next plane pass

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

I think you are posting this in the wrong forum. This game doesn't have (hardly any) aircraft flying over. Try posting in the correct game forum.

[Captain Black]

Turn the difficulty up and complete the misson objectives without being detected. Then come back and let us know what you think?

[Shane]

i dunno what you two are trying to say exactly it sounds like your saying there is no airplanes, okay but every level seems to have a noise masking event that repeats, and sure i tried it on hard removes the bullet marker, but none of this elimates my points

this is a COD, war shooter game its not a sniper game, ghost warrior 3 felt more sniper than this. if ya really wanna study generic patrol routes and fire on noise masking events at the primary targets all day long fine, but i want a sniper game, that makes me feel like a dedicated sniper, not a general war game in which my loadout is permant sniper...

modern warfare had a better sniper feeling on that tiny azz section where you crawl through the grass etc. if i want a war game that playsout like this there are dozens of far far better and much more well executed titles to choose from over this, most of which are miles cheaper as well.

i want devs to make a sniper game that is the keyboard equilvant of silent scope with more scope not for them to make a standard warfare game with sniper elements and call it sniper game. spotter at my side, proper wind to make it as boring as firing a real life sniper rifle, in fact speaking of which hunter call of the wild does about as much as this game but with animals...

thats how not a sniper game this really truly actually is...
arcade game silent scope, thats a sniper only experience...

when i watch a sniper style movie, it doesnt pan out like any of these thus called sniper games, all sniper games seem to play as shooting games.

[Captain Black]

Originally posted by Shane:

but i want a sniper game, that makes me feel like a dedicated sniper,

Try this.

On the first and arguably, the easiest map. Complete only the primary objective and leave the island, without being detected.

It shouldn't prove too difficult? What, with Dave and his mates, remaining so lackadaisical about the whole, war thing.

[HalloweenWeed (US)]

Even in "Sniper Ghost Warrior" and "Sniper Ghost Warrior2" half or more of the action was with a pistol or assault rifle. You say it's not enough like a real sniper game but the truth is no AAA title fits what is apparently your idea of what the game should be. So why pick on this game? It's still the best you will find out there, why slander it? Could it be that I am just 'taking your bait?' I have been playing this game for about 3 years and have about 1400 hours into it, so I know what I am talking about. How many hours you you played it? The truth is, we all know just how good this game is, and no matter how much you slander it you will not sway our opinions. So just give up on that and move on to your next game target.

[Earlie~]

You can fine tune the difficulty to your hearts content, I would suggest upping AI to authentic plus along with player toughness (so that run & gun cod gameplay is a sure way to end up dead). If I recall correctly authentic+ AI never goes back to passive if you've alerted them to your presence, they will stay in the yellow state for the remainder of the mission. This might help make the game feel more like what you want it to be like, without upping the difficulty on the rest of the gameplay elements.

[Shane]

nah halloween is right, no sniper game fits my desires, but each time i buy a new one, this my first sniper elite i expect it... never get it, but always expect it lmao

and im not slander it (its my newest purchase) is all it is... not picking on it, its just a simple case of this is the newest sniper game i have tried so its this game discussions that got this thread so take it easy with the judgements there lmao

if ya listen carefully im saying why do all sniper game mechanics sux

[Reqruiz]

Dude, real sniper simulator would be just one boring waiting fest and terrible game. Real snipers waits patiently for hours so it can't be good gameplay. It must be playable and enjoyable for many people, not just hardcore fans of sniping. As people said above - try finish some missions as real sniper, without being noticed, it's not so easy, especially on authentic difficulty level.

[Shane]

i understand the point your making in that statement with the authentic aspect of the game, but to me that returns a mere decent stealthy gaming experience of which there is no complaint because lets face facts here, in todays age of gaming that level of stealth gameplay is surely and truly missed by many a gamer.

however i am something of a fossil of a gamer, and always like to own something different no matter how little i play these aka different games, a true sniper that replicates the famous scenes of movies like shooter and so forth is something i would adore having a spotter and having to fail a trillion times to pull of the impossible is what i think when i enter into a search field on steam the word "sniper" not a pretty decently made stealth game, regardless of how equally important it is to own that as well

so please dont look at my rant as just a rant, but also view it as a plea to these types of developers who make these sniper games we enjoy now in elite and warrior that they take that passion to make them to also make a game of the latter as well

sometimes making that game, even if the return of money is not worth it in the end !!

i have enjoyed some aspects of this game i have played so far, i truly have and its not a case of all bad news, in fact in light of the stealth experience it will be something very special for a very many people. but i would like both

such as life, amen

[damian2472005]

this game is for fun an it does this job well.

[Shane]

i just find it all a insult to try and make a game stand out (and/or) be seen as something seperate from all other war type games where you can get the same gameplay for the most part which is a sniper loadout rather than a sniper dedicated game...

if i play cod as a sniper i do exactly the same things as i do in this game...

when you give your game a title that makes it appear this is something different, this is a sniper only affair, this is so different to any other game that lets you be a sniper by giving it a title like SNIPER ELITE then i expect a difference

PS probably why i never purchased it before i only got it when i did becaue i didnt pay for it persay (Gift) and it was 80% off, im also now watching sniper ghost warrior contracts...

will this be a true sniper sim type game i hope and wonder, doubt it haha

[Captain Black]

On one of the maps. There's a challenge which in which you only kill the main target and a sniper. (You also need to retrieve some documents). On the same mission, there's a challenge to kill the target without entering his island.

If you turn the wind and bullet drop off. That leaves you with two easy shots to plan and execute without being detected. You will also need to arrange a distraction, (to grab the intel). Then, ideally, exfiltrate before being detected.

Given that you seem to have enjoyed, hiding in the grass during the COD mission. Is this not the kind of experience, you're looking for?

That COD mission was on rails. You had no choice, but, to hide in the grass. This game is more for your discerning sniper, who must decide, whether or not it's a good idea, to enter the grass in the first place.

[Shane]

i cant get what i want from it if im honest, i just always end up machine gun and pistol, why go to extreme lengths to complete the mission when i can do it in a matter of seconds rather than minutes and hours ... ?

it dont feel right when i play it like that, it feels more suitable to me at least just to treat it like a war game and just get the job done, each section of the maps are a pretty small AOE its just more logical to go in guns blazing, blow every truck up knowing the next area wont even enter red alert even on authentic+ it doesnt put me in a feeling of sniper mode at any stage

im literally not feeling sniper game at all, im always feeling pretty decent stealth ww2 war game everytime, all the time.. even in stealth terms its still better using the pistol and getting up close bush hopping..

the sniper rifle to me in this type of game setting is of no use at all

• cadet no bullet/wind effects and still think its lame using the rifle
  
• ive done bush hopping with pistol and knife attacks
  
• done the whole spend an hour to get around the other side of each camp to snipe the officer and still left with why the fck did i just not machine gun my way here
  
• shot cameras from starting location to watch the dumb AI hide behind a wall thinking well who cares wtf you lot do now, theres no alarms or penatly and the immersion would have been better to sneak up bush by bush to the villa and stab you all

honestly as a sniper game in my view its trash, pure trash, but just as a game its okay. i cant explain myself lmao the sniper rifle and the whole aspect of using it is the worse immersion breaking aspects in the game. i dont even ever feel like any sniper shot was worth the effort it took to achieve either. just pass me my bloody machine gun ffs

[Captain Black]

Looks like you've made your mind up anyway?

SE V2 Remastered offers a more linear experience and a requirement to to use a rifle for most engagements. Perhaps you'd be better suited to that?

[Shane]

yep as a war/shooter game its fine, as a dedi sniper experience its less than enough for me so...
wont be buying another elite sniper unless they take a drastic u-turn in approach

this all said however, on stealth alone im well impressed with it...