Sniper Elite 4

Sniper Elite 4

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4Klassic Feb 12, 2017 @ 10:25am
Sniper Elite 4 Demo?
Hi there Rebellion.
Can we expect a demo of Sniper Elite 4?
I'm a content creator on Youtube, and I've notice that Rebellion and UIDigital are not giving away keys on the typical Press Websites for the content creators, I tried to contact UIDigital, but nobody replied...

I feel sad that such expensive game with an addiction of season pass and high-end security provided from Sony's Anti-Damper Denuvo, don't provide any single way to create content and promote your game unless we empty our wallets, which for me is big disappointment for the respect that I used to have for Rebellion, since you are all a small AAA dev team, your team more than any other, requires more attention on youtube and twitch, pity..

Cheers.
Last edited by 4Klassic; Feb 12, 2017 @ 10:27am
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HunterKiller Feb 12, 2017 @ 10:45am 
You can't wait two more days? Took me 2 days to pre-download the game. I'll be damned if I'm waiting 2 more just to download a demo.
portiaevl Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:02am 
denuvo aint owned by sony.. denuvo is the new company, only 'affiliation' it has with sony atm is the license to use securom and arccos.. and if you're a content creator whos in any way decent, shouldnt you have made the money by now from people watching your stuff on youtube ?

@hunterkiller - i dont think its about waiting two more days, its about someone wanting a freebie
MROOD Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by portiaevl:
denuvo aint owned by sony.. denuvo is the new company, only 'affiliation' it has with sony atm is the license to use securom and arccos.. and if you're a content creator whos in any way decent, shouldnt you have made the money by now from people watching your stuff on youtube ?

@hunterkiller - i dont think its about waiting two more days, its about someone wanting a freebie
lol thats what i though, in other words this post is a beg thread
4Klassic Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:07am 
Originally posted by portiaevl:
denuvo aint owned by sony.. denuvo is the new company, only 'affiliation' it has with sony atm is the license to use securom and arccos.. and if you're a content creator whos in any way decent, shouldnt you have made the money by now from people watching your stuff on youtube ?

@hunterkiller - i dont think its about waiting two more days, its about someone wanting a freebie
You got the wrong ideia.
For me a demo was fine.
I don't need the full game, just 1 level, a demo a limited access whatever.
Something where I would be able to make content about it.

While it's true that usually developers or publishers or PR Team usually send keys of the full game for content creators (I was no exception in many cases), altough I still think that it's really not necessary to send full copies to create something, unless you are a full reviewer, a limited time access or a limited level access like a demo would be enough for most of the content creators.

If I really wanted to play the game right away for the sake of completing it it would be fair to buy it.
Altough I still think that when content is created on youtube or twitch, not only we are helping ourselfs raising our channels, but we are as well promoting a game.

EDIT: About the money, it's not that simple, adblock continues to strike a lot on the earnings and CPM had take a big hit since 2017 had started, so we now require more viewers (with no adblock software) to match what we earned before.
Obviously, big channels have no trouble with it since they make thousands easily, but yes, If I had made enough, I obviously could afford the game and possibly even make more out of it, or maybe not, depends on how famous are the games, usually the ubisoft titles, and Battlefields and Call of Duty are usually what get the typical monstrous views, still I it's insane how many other good games don't even have 1/10 of the attention from the users :/

But yes, you got me, my channel have a low ammount of subs and attention, It is rising, but I still need to make more money or invest on itfor more tools to make it where I want it and how I want it.
That's why I had asked for a demo, since it's quite obvious that they aren't going to provide keys for content creators, which is quite surprising, when 95% of the games does it, or have the decency at least of replying to a simple mail with a simple question, even to say "no we aren't proving keys". But that's mostly UIDigital fault (the PR Team behind the game) that aren't doing their work.

Cheers

@MROOD a beg for a demo, that's it.
I guess didn't hurt to try to get some info if it's coming or not.
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Mr. Fibble Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:32am 
Could be argued that a PR team doing their job will be targetting those that can provide the biggest exposure first rather than a smaller content provider with limited audience and potential exposure for the game.
4Klassic Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by Mr. Fibble:
Could be argued that a PR team doing their job will be targetting those that can provide the biggest exposure first rather than a smaller content provider with limited audience and potential exposure for the game.
The big fish usually had the money to buy the game if the rebellion don't provide the copies.
Altough it's exactly how it works in every release and any game, they provide the copies first to the big fishes and slowly provide to the smaller, which is obvious and the correct way to do it to serve the interests of the developers, like you said, it's their job.

Maybe I got spoiled of getting a reply from PR Teams, All PR Teams had replied until now, a lot with a "NO", but that's something already, others with info where should I try out, other with an access to the game as long as you submit the content and show to their team for them to evaluate what you created.

Altough, dispite I overreacted on the first post, the question still remains, It's still unkown if a demo is coming out, sniper elite 2 had a demo, 3 unfortunally not.

Cheers
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SkacikPL Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:43am 
There was a pre-release version which was sent to few youtubers but the choice seemed very arbitrary and tbh i've never known any of them before i started looking for gameplay material.

As far as i can tell there will be no public demo whatsoever.
Mr. Fibble Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:44am 
Demo's are getting rarer these days and since this is being done without publishers money behind it financially a demo may not end up being the best use of those resources.
4Klassic Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by 🔰SkacikPL🗾:
There was a pre-release version which was sent to few youtubers but the choice seemed very arbitrary and tbh i've never known any of them before i started looking for gameplay material.

As far as i can tell there will be no public demo whatsoever.
Well that's sad!
Usually when the keys are limited, they offer to the famous ones, thanks for letting me know.
SkacikPL Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by ObscureAngel:
Originally posted by 🔰SkacikPL🗾:
There was a pre-release version which was sent to few youtubers but the choice seemed very arbitrary and tbh i've never known any of them before i started looking for gameplay material.

As far as i can tell there will be no public demo whatsoever.
Well that's sad!
Usually when the keys are limited, they offer to the famous ones, thanks for letting me know.
I don't think they even had a preview build for PC, i've only seen previews made on PS4 and it was same build as devs themselves shown on streams so it's not like it was anything unique really.
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4Klassic Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by Mr. Fibble:
Demo's are getting rarer these days and since this is being done without publishers money behind it financially a demo may not end up being the best use of those resources.
They are indeed a small dev team, but that's exactly the reason why they need a demo.
I know several people that don't know or never tried Sniper Elite, A demo is a nice way to get in touch with it.

In fact, it was the demo of the Sniper Elite 2 that introduced me to the series, and made me buy the second and third title :)
Mr. Fibble Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:48am 
I've not actually bothered checking youtube for footage of the game as rebellion have been streaming it themselves for a while now to highlight the various bits of the game.

Only real difference is I think they tend to use console (PS4) for the stream which does make sense over having to setup multiple PC's just for an hour each week for a multiplayer thing.
SkacikPL Feb 12, 2017 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Mr. Fibble:
Only real difference is I think they tend to use console (PS4) for the stream which does make sense over having to setup multiple PC's just for an hour each week for a multiplayer thing.

It'd only make sense for multiplayer i guess. TBH i've never watched fully any of the streams because the way they play and aim on console is beyond cringy.
Simeta Feb 12, 2017 @ 12:15pm 
Basically the OP just wants a demo to create a single video so when poeple search for the game on youtube his content will pop up even know he has no intention of buying the game. Typical cheap ass "content creator" thats only after hits.
4Klassic Feb 12, 2017 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by Simeta:
Basically the OP just wants a demo to create a single video so when poeple search for the game on youtube his content will pop up even know he has no intention of buying the game. Typical cheap ass "content creator" thats only after hits.
Yep, I have no intention in buying the game for now, since it's too expensive right now for the quality that it provides in my opinion, I don't live in UK, I live in Portugal, the game costs 60€, we earn 550€ here, there is no miracles, sorry Rebellion.

Second, I'm pretty sure there are several videos online from the pre-access that have been done a while now on PS4, in fact, go to the youtube and search for sniper elite IV, there are already full pages of content of the game, hardly I would be a hit.

Altough if you think that I don't want to buy any game, feel free to check my steam account, you will find there hundreds of them, and in between the big list, you will find the Sniper Elite 2 and 3 with several hours spent on them and a lot of archievements done, in fact I have more games than you, and it's actually funny that you are a content creator as well, since you have a twitch account, So I don't really understand what's all of that rage about, but that's fine..
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