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Expedition mode should be more like the original
I love expedition mode, and it's obviously really great in downpour as well. However, it's not without its problems. The lack of a difficulty section like the og had is an odd exclusion, and why are there so much less burdens? If the original difficulty selection was back, Doomed could go back to being the hunter cycle limit and you also bring over some of the other burdens like that were left out.

On a side note, I don't like the high agility perk. It's really good, but it kinda gets rid of the one reason to play Rivulet. Yeah, Riv still has longer breath, but it's not as impactful. For perks like the crafting, double jump, spear dual wielding, they take something positive about another slugcat, but they don't get rid of the entire reason to play that cat. Gourmand still has the cool movement options and can throw their weight around, spearmaster still has unlimited spears, and artificer can still create explosives. High Agility takes away what makes Rivulet unique and just gives it to the other characters.

(This might be nit picky, but what's the point of the scavenger lantern perk of neuron glow perk exists? It's useful as saint but with the cold but not much else. Also if you enable passages, I think you should still be able to get the survivor passage)

Great game mode, but I wish it had some more of the og content in it.
Last edited by Special Thanks, You; Feb 18, 2023 @ 9:40am
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kokkilokki Mar 1, 2023 @ 7:26pm 
You're absolutely right about High Agility obsoleting Rivulet in that mode. In fact, it even gives the longer underwater breath capacity - even to Artificer :lunar2019grinningpig: So it takes everything about Rivulet and applies it to another slugcat.

Maybe you could argue that Rivulet saves the Perk slot. But so can most other slugcats and Artificer can save 2.
YinYin Mar 2, 2023 @ 3:26am 
What about the water hands? (Rivulets auto bubble fruit popping)
Is that transferred too?

Also does the agility just overwrite whatever the slugcat should have or does it actually modify what it should have? Because then you can stack it on top of a Rivulet, no? Seems reasonable if you can't get enough.

Either way I don't mind transferring all perks to craft your own custom slugcat overall.

Artificers explosives crafting for example is mostly useless to me. The resistance, explosive jump and explosive parry are the key features and available as perks. Same thing to me, but I don't mind/like using them with everyone.
kokkilokki Mar 2, 2023 @ 3:44am 
Ah you're right about popping bubble fruits, totally forgot. That doesn't transfer.

Now having played all slugcats with Agility, I'm 99% sure they all get the same speed as normal Rivulet, or if not, I don't notice the difference :)

Rivulet actually can't equip Agility, just like Artificer can't equip Explosive Jump and so on.. I also wondered if it would stack for Rivulet before finding that out.
YinYin Mar 2, 2023 @ 3:49am 
Ah I see. If that is the only Rivulet perk you are indeed better off using it on others.

But you won't have the gills! visually

edit: maybe stacking should be considered
double explosive jump or just getting a higher repeat rate would be rad
or improved crafting etc - you could do something to buff each of them
Last edited by YinYin; Mar 2, 2023 @ 3:51am
I don't think stacking perks is needed. I like the perk system the way it is currently, but even then it still has some issues. One can argue the player often has too much perk slots, I often find myself just not using all of them because I simply don't need them. Some perks don't have much of a use over others. Scavenger lantern is only a good pick as saint since it stops the cold. Yeah it can be used for "collect X scavenger lanterns" mission, but item crafting is better for those. Same goes for the bomb. Why pick these when I can pick the better Neuron Glow and Singularity Bomb?
YinYin Mar 2, 2023 @ 5:10am 
I've found myself not needing all slots as well.

I suppose some of these could require more than one slot, being more powerful than an alternative.
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Date Posted: Feb 18, 2023 @ 9:23am
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