NERF THAT ..&*#@!. ENDYMIONS !

[Mercury1]

I am sick of that &%*# ! "Frigate gameplay" it's all about Endymions right now ! 24 pd cannons , hp , speed , and "wind rose" in compare to all other 5 rates ! With new wood it's a completely joke !
17-18 knots endymions .. it's cool story Bob !

When 5 rate ship has almost same speed as 6 rate ! In term of balance it's another cool story Bobini ! Just one ship graved almost all 5 rates ... it's another cool story ....

Hello to Hermiona , Essex , la belle pulle's users ..... what ? no one play on that ships ?? WHY ??? WHY ma man, WHY ????? Because who need that sh.. when we have cool stories ! ))

PS ) YES I know about real prototype HMS Endymion and about his performance ... and his exceptional speed, but it's just one ship or couples of that class ! Rarity of that ship in game must be higher ! Endymion should be a event ship like Santa Cecilia and Diana !

And also in 1817 HMS Endymion re-rated as 50-gun 4 rate ! Wait ,what ? 4 rate frigate ?? like incredible usable "Indefatigable" )) ??? Indefatigable ... right !!! we have in game another one a perfectly balanced ship ))

(PVP-server) 2000+ hours !

RE-BALANCE 5 RATES ! #rebalance5rates

[Caldrin]

Sadly nearly all ranks have a similar story 1 really good ship and 1 really bad ship.. the entire game needs a re-balance really.

[Granch]

You two

[Maison De Cornusiac]

There will always be one outstanding ship in her class. Endymion is already made rare by the permit. Maybe the answer to this is just reducing chance to hit on that particular permit when opening gold chests.
I am not against outstanding ships per se. What if all ships in one class would act the same? Then we would see complaints about boring ship choices...

[Alopen]

Endymion has everything is the problem. 24 lbs, best speed. No real tradeoff in HP or armor compared to other 5th rates. It does have a signficant heel.However, veteran players can cope with that and its not like the other 5th rates it outclasses are much better (trinc may be worse).

The game focuses a lot on stern camping. Probably much more so than IRL. This makes agility and speed king to a large extent. That really plays into Endymion and Wasa’s strengths over other ships of comparable size. Not sure if there is a historical answer.

Having said all that is the issue Endymions or $15 million ships farming less elite ships?

[Capt Lawrence]

preaching to the choir I stopped playing when the Devs responded to my question last year when I asked "Are you aware the Endymion makes all other 5th rates useless and the players know it?"

their response was its working how its intended so :) I quit

[Bambi🦌]

Don’t play PVP. PVP is crap. It’s fun when you engage 1st rank elites fleet with your clan mates and in a bloody battle loose half of your crew and yet you get a reward. Nobody plays endy in pve

[Mercury1]

Originally posted by Ottra the Fox:

Don’t play PVP. PVP is crap. It’s fun when you engage 1st rank elites fleet with your clan mates and in a bloody battle loose half of your crew and yet you get a reward. Nobody plays endy in pve

Ahahaha "PVE players" .... ok , ok ! For me Naval Action is a PVP game , this all about emotions when you fight against human, play against stupid AI is boring as hell ! I will never understand those people who play on PVE server ! ... Without PVP no point to play this game !

P.S ) PVE server for Low testosterone humans ))

[Henry L Castle]

Or you could try to get good in the game before you come here crying about X Y Z ship?
Idk that is an option that eludes most people these days...
Endymion is a great ship yes. Endymion also suffers from low crew and bad turning radious.
You will litteraly ♥♥♥♥ on any endymion if you are in a smaller ship. Hell even the trincomalee is an Endymion killer if used right...

[Mercury1]

Originally posted by Henry L Castle:

Or you could try to get good in the game before you come here crying about X Y Z ship?
Idk that is an option that eludes most people these days...
Endymion is a great ship yes. Endymion also suffers from low crew and bad turning radious.
You will litteraly ♥♥♥♥ on any endymion if you are in a smaller ship. Hell even the trincomalee is an Endymion killer if used right...

Srsly ? you don't get a point of that thread ! This is not about " uuuu i am getting killed by evil Endymions , please nerf that sh** i can't handle it ! It's not about skill or experience ! I talking about diversity in open world and battles , one ship push out all others 5 rates from game ! Litteraly 90 % Frigates in open world is Endys ( except Patrol zone of course , Free Trincos...)

Endymion is top tier of 5 rates and it's normal ! But rarity of that ship should be more higher ! Right now this ship is everywhere, like common sh..

If slightly change "Wind rose" this can solve that problem... not nerf speed or cannons poundage , just wind rose ! Less "Close haul / Close reach" speed , more "Beam reach" speed , this will be "open window " for ships like Essex , belle poules , L'Hermiones ,etc !

[Maison De Cornusiac]

Originally posted by FrankyFourFn:

Originally posted by Ottra the Fox:

Don’t play PVP. PVP is crap. It’s fun when you engage 1st rank elites fleet with your clan mates and in a bloody battle loose half of your crew and yet you get a reward. Nobody plays endy in pve

Ahahaha "PVE players" .... ok , ok ! For me Naval Action is a PVP game , this all about emotions when you fight against human, play against stupid AI is boring as hell ! I will never understand those people who play on PVE server ! ... Without PVP no point to play this game !

P.S ) PVE server for Low testosterone humans ))

You are obviously the reason why we feel in better company on PvE server. Furthermore your comment shows you have no idea what you are talking about, you presumed alpha-male. lol.

[Mercury1]

Originally posted by Maison De Cornusiac:

Originally posted by FrankyFourFn:

Ahahaha "PVE players" .... ok , ok ! For me Naval Action is a PVP game , this all about emotions when you fight against human, play against stupid AI is boring as hell ! I will never understand those people who play on PVE server ! ... Without PVP no point to play this game !

P.S ) PVE server for Low testosterone humans ))

You are obviously the reason why we feel in better company on PvE server. Furthermore your comment shows you have no idea what you are talking about, you presumed alpha-male. lol.

ok ok ! )

[Alopen]

Well for PvE the Diana is better than the Endymion since I can throw 42 lb carronades on it. For PvP, the Endymion is annoying since its so much faster than all the other comparable ships. The Endymion goes for millions on the PvP server and is dirt cheap on PvE. Franky is right avout PvP meta with Endymions. Given their speed and ability to carry 24 lbs they are awesome ganking ships which is why everyone else gets frustrated with them. Its just how the game is played fight when odds are in your favor and run away when not.

Endymions are great at this. That is not going to change. But devs are not wise to make one 5th rate clearly above the rest. 3rd rates and 4th rates have good variety but for 5th rates its Endymion or bust in PvP.

[Alopen]

Originally posted by Henry L Castle:

Or you could try to get good in the game before you come here crying about X Y Z ship?
Idk that is an option that eludes most people these days...
Endymion is a great ship yes. Endymion also suffers from low crew and bad turning radious.
You will litteraly ♥♥♥♥ on any endymion if you are in a smaller ship. Hell even the trincomalee is an Endymion killer if used right...

And A snow or a Herc can rape a Trinc with ease. Thats a flawed game design to be entirely honest. Stern raking was never practiced in history as often as occurs in a single battle.

[Mercury1]

Originally posted by Alopen:

Originally posted by Henry L Castle:

Or you could try to get good in the game before you come here crying about X Y Z ship?
Idk that is an option that eludes most people these days...
Endymion is a great ship yes. Endymion also suffers from low crew and bad turning radious.
You will litteraly ♥♥♥♥ on any endymion if you are in a smaller ship. Hell even the trincomalee is an Endymion killer if used right...

And A snow or a Herc can rape a Trinc with ease. Thats a flawed game design to be entirely honest. Stern raking was never practiced in history as often as occurs in a single battle.

Stern raking is problem only for new players , reverse sailing + wind shadow ... it will make a lot of problems for smaller ships ! Tested 1000 times (Duels and 1v2 ) ... in different situations against skilled opponent ! Of course if you "seal clubbed" by 10 Snows you gonna die as soon as possible )) It's just game about !

[Bambi🦌]

Originally posted by FrankyFourFn:

Originally posted by Ottra the Fox:

Don’t play PVP. PVP is crap. It’s fun when you engage 1st rank elites fleet with your clan mates and in a bloody battle loose half of your crew and yet you get a reward. Nobody plays endy in pve

Ahahaha "PVE players" .... ok , ok ! For me Naval Action is a PVP game , this all about emotions when you fight against human, play against stupid AI is boring as hell ! I will never understand those people who play on PVE server ! ... Without PVP no point to play this game !

P.S ) PVE server for Low testosterone humans ))

I don’t have much testosterone as I am a t-girl. The problem of PVP is you and your toxicity. Non rewarding server where you spend weeks to craft a ship only for gankers to steal it. PVE is for role players and mature boys and girls. PvP is more like for toxic kids. And you have proved it with your testosterone comment.