PvE sever Co-Op battles against AI?

[George]

Good afternnon,

I was just wondering why it is not possible for groups or clan of players to join battles together against AI ships in PvE

For example, I am sailing with a group mate, we come across an AI vessel with contraband good and wish to attack it. Both of us are not able to join the battle as it comes up as closed once commenced.

We can, obviously join fleet battles and events as a group so why not encounter battles?

This would make the game better (at least from my point of view) by imnproving Co-Op game play, and does not violtate any PvE isues as we are Co-op attacking AI not players

[FDG]

+1
Agree completely.

[Norfolk nChance]

This is Open World Cpt Shaft we are talking about I assume correctly.

We have a fixed setup system with Missions and EPICs which are great with Clan and guessed members as you've stated. I like your idea and it is Co-Op, but I'd assume its pushing towards PvP too much.

I personally wouldn't want to see gangs jumping a tiny AI fleet to get say Clan member Battle ratings up or picking off an easy trader. We do that via missions and EPICs where the ai can match the Battle Ratings for each side. You will get larger or smaller ai fleet oppenant dependant on your group's battle rating as a starting point or constant.

(If I've got this wrong as I understand it can someone please correct me.)

So for your friends to join you in an OW attack on an ai fleet you hit a snag. The constant is now the AI fleet and not the player(s). You know the AI ships, types and nation etc. This is where the problem starts.

I imagine you'd never want to attack a fleet that was obviously larger more well equiped than you, would you? That would be a suicide mission...You pick off your targets...

This would work in OW if the ai would allocate you its Battle Rating to match. So instead of a five man fleet you might only have enough points 3 ships... Make sense?

anyway just my thoughts, but I like the idea


Norfolk nChance

[Garry_Hovis]

it used to work just fine....now with the latest roe chanes pve server is even more broken and seems imossible to hunt ai ships as a group? This is why battle ratings apply and used to stop you attacking with too much BR. worked fine as it was. now broken like soooo much in this game!

[George]

Originally posted by Norfolk nChance:

This is Open World Cpt Shaft we are talking about I assume correctly.


I personally wouldn't want to see gangs jumping a tiny AI fleet to get say Clan member Battle ratings up or picking off an easy trader.




Norfolk nChance

This is already possible in PvP

I am suggeting that all options that are available in PvP against AI are available in PvE.

You just cant attack other players, or joing battles in progress in OW against other players.

[Norfolk nChance]

Cpt Shaft, Ink...

Without trying to repeat myself, I agree in principle absolutely. In practise I think the Dev's would say no on PvE because of the constant snag I menrtioned above. An extreme sitution on the PvE server would play out under your current proposed idea correct? A 10 player fleet, attacks a solo LGV ai same nation carrying contraband goods...

If I'm correct, this would be, a definate NO from the PvE player comunity and a definate no from the Dev's. In my view. If other PvE players disagree please speak up... Ink also chime in...

I can see both sides here of the OW problem, and Id love to OW with my friends attack the ai fleets. The Co-Op would be a wonderful addition to the PvE server and the EPIC and Mission Fleet machanics already in place...

The Battle Rating Limit solution I mentioned, crude but practical still dosen't solve the problem. I want all my mates in the fleet not just 3 of them. So where is the common ground?

Maybe an over compliaction but a battle rating bandwidth govner....? Yes Cpt Shaft and friends can attack all ai fleets OW within 25% of Cpt Shafts FLEET battle rating. This way you will be too high for the solo LGV but the main ai SoL patrol... well that looks like fun...

Bandwidth 25% above and below Cpt Shafts FLEET total BR.

what do you think?


Norfolk nChance

[TheBear]

It was like that when the game started out, you could join battles. (for a limited time before it became closed)

But im guessing it lead to griefing, people stealing the ship you''d hope to board or were attempting to board.

Or sinking you outright and taking over the fight and the spoils.

[Boatabike]

I reported this as a bug months ago, they said then they would look into it, never got back to me or the others that reported it then. Sailing with a friend just 2 players but unable to enter together was game break for both of us we now no longer play.