is the ship wipe the end for this game/alpha?

[countzero]

how many players stay in this game after the wipe?

[Green Death]

Needs a wipe, sooner the better. People have stupid amounts of ships stocked from various exploits/broken economy/previous easy money tricks. Why would anybody want to keep playing with such a lopsided and uneven playing field, and how would it be fair to anybody new at release?

[=🆆ΛУ🆆⋊г∂=]

Oh, if there was a wipe I would actually consider to reinstall the game, however, since they desperately try not to take the best aspects from PotbS and improve on the things which went wrong with it in order to be ham-fistedly 'original' and with zero imagination I'll probably only take a look when the game left EA..

[HooDooMan]

I am not in favor of the ship wipe (Ship Crafting revamp) for 2 reasons.

#1. There are far more pressing issues in this game that need to be addressed. At least half of the stated goals of the ship crafting revamp are already achieved with mods available in-game.

#2. Based upon past track record they will screw it up, royally. Over 50% of remaining players will leave and it will take 3+ months to straighten out what they messed up. Confidence in the Dev Team will not be restored and most players that will leave as a result of this mistake will not return.

[Green Death]

I can see why some people don't want a wipe but tbh I can't get that attached to ingame stuff especially in an EA. The last wipe actually produced a lot of good fights since suddenly people were on a much more even footing. It will suck for new players at release when they realise just how far behind the old hands they are in material terms.

[ToreDL87]

What about the redeemable ships then? I`ve not used or even redeemed any of them, that`ll be wiped too?

[HardyKnox]

In the Official Game Labs Naval Action Forums at:
http://forum.game-labs.net
the Devs have made clear that there will be a wipe before Game Release, and that Players will retain their Rank and their Crafting Skill Level. Nothing else but their understanding of the game and their friends.

Many Players (and happy Players generally pay no attention to these boards because they are actually playing) are looking forward to the wipe, and some are actually putting off playing until after the Wipe.

Those who want no wipe must consider what if: A new buyer buying the "New Release" game enters and finds HUNDREDS of player with shipyards filled with ships, building materials, gold and Blue Prints. And the new PLayer with zip, zero, nada but a Basic Cutter. Clearly not marketable. Just as in Poker, the new hand starts with a shuffle of the deck and all players on an even set.

~ HK ~
1200 hours played and loving it still.

[Gabbiano]

i am waiting for the wipe to return no reason to keep on investing time... hopefully soon :)
also better UI soon too :o

[HooDooMan]

Първоначално публикувано от HardyKnox:

In the Official Game Labs Naval Action Forums at:
http://forum.game-labs.net
the Devs have made clear that there will be a wipe before Game Release, and that Players will retain their Rank and their Crafting Skill Level. Nothing else but their understanding of the game and their friends.

Many Players (and happy Players generally pay no attention to these boards because they are actually playing) are looking forward to the wipe, and some are actually putting off playing until after the Wipe.

Those who want no wipe must consider what if: A new buyer buying the "New Release" game enters and finds HUNDREDS of player with shipyards filled with ships, building materials, gold and Blue Prints. And the new PLayer with zip, zero, nada but a Basic Cutter. Clearly not marketable. Just as in Poker, the new hand starts with a shuffle of the deck and all players on an even set.

~ HK ~
1200 hours played and loving it still.

The wipe that happens at release is seperate and apart from the ship wipe that will happen when they revamp ship building.

The wipe on launch will be a total asset wipe of the account, including ships, mods, wharehouse items, gold, etc.

The ship wipe is supposed to only impact ships and some modules. It will happen when they redo ship building.

I believe (maybe incorrectly) the thread started with discussion on the ship wipe that will happen when ship building is revamped.

[Green Death]

Thing is if they rework crafting they can't leave the old ships in and have the testing be meaningful in any way. We need to see how the 'new' ships perform , individually and against each other... that's not possible if you don't know whether your enemy is sailing a new or old version.

It's testing.. people need to constantly tell themselves this.

[countzero]

i hope the devs redeem the ships we lost. there are many hours in the ships we lost. i think thats the way we dont loose to many players.

[Green Death]

Първоначално публикувано от Julius:

Welcoming the ship wipe with open arms, hope we get nothing for it (sitting on ~25 exceptional ships myself).

People's demand to be compensated for wipes - first with all the contracts being fulfillled at the last port wipe, and then with NPC shops paying huge sums for fine woods after they were taken out of crafting - has completely wrecked the economy with massive inflation.

How do you want to be compensated? Even more gold to make things even worse than they already are?

+1.

People can't complain about th economy not working and at the same time demand these compensations.

It's a game for crying out loud, we knew it was a test phase and that wipes were likely. Screwing the overall gameplay just to keep some virtual goods makes no sense.

[Dutchy]

Agree with acid fresh start would be the best, hopefully we get Some extra information about this matter Soon, dev players already getting rewarded with keeping craft and rank lvl

[Sir Texas Sir]

People you are ALPHA testers. They should of been doing wipes monthly over the last year but they didn't. They need to do the ship wipe for the reason spoken as new system won't support old ships. I'm waiting to see what this is like as it looks way better than the 5 tier ship system now. I'm here to test this game and that is what I'm doing. I do think they need a major wipe before release so we can test all the economy and RvR stuff from the start without tons of collected gold and materials or old ships stored up. This would be a good point where they go to the BETA stage of the game. Than they can tweek stuff and get it ready for the release. Though before they go to Beta we need Pirate mechanics too. This ship whip is prob one of the last big content changes so they can do the Pirate stuff and we will be one step closer to moving into a BETA game stage. We are lucky they are going to let us keep our ranks/crafting levels. Most games i been on you didn't get to keep crap. If you did it was only cause they let us start the game a few weeks or days early and we got to keep every thing from that point on.

Though I do assume when the game gets released they will give out some gifts for all the players that helped. It will prob be something like the yacht that all players that bought the game through paypal before EA/Steam release happens. I'm also hoping we might get a few ships to help us since we are mostly all mxed out level. Like they gave all EA the Niagra and Renon's to start with. This along with an econ package to help stimulate the economy from the get go will help the game upon release.

[kishmull]

Ever since the announcement was made i have entirely lost the will to log into the game for more than 5 mins at a time. Unless you are grinding rank and craft there is absolutely nothing to log on for until this change has been made.. Get on with it please.

[countzero]

how u wanna test ships without ships? how many players have an bp for oceans or agas? if the handfull players go out with the bp`s for those ships, how u can test it?