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Duplo Mar 12, 2016 @ 11:17pm
Ryu hits like a truck in SFV.
Ryu actually does so much more damage in SF5 than he had in SF4 for a keep away character. By no means is he at the very top, but i'm pretty astonished by it to be honest. :shopkeeper:
Last edited by Duplo; Mar 13, 2016 @ 4:28pm
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drawknives Mar 13, 2016 @ 9:08am 
Oh, and heres a list for the other legendary Street Fighter game, Street Fighter Alpha 2.

http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Street_Fighter_Alpha_2#Tier_List

Cipher, I know you're itching to do it, gimme that STFU video. :steamhappy:
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Nyx Mar 13, 2016 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by narshkajke:
Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Ryu had no sign of the SnH in SF3, he was basicly free from it. In SFV follows now the explanation and in SFVI he will be the unimportant sidechar he was in SF3.
Alex is better as mainchar anyways.

Outside of this Ryu never did something to move the story forward. In every Storyarc with Shadaloo, did Chun-Li,Cammy and Guile all the work to stop M.Bison,while Ryu just run around and got beaten by everyone.

He will do nothing against Bison this time too and the Story focuses on Shadaloo again.
Ryu will have his battle with Necalli,lose the SnH and become unimportant.

At least Capcom is doing some things right.
but he already lose the SnH, Gouken sealed it because it's too dangerous then Akuma getting pissed because he lost a worthy opponent (ssfiv).
But he appears to have unsealed again in SFV plot too. And can he really just "lose" his dark hadou? I get that Necalli devours it or something, but do that really just leaves him with nothing? I really wanted Ryu to master it instead of just run away from it.... and lose it.
And Alex a best main char? Hell no! Capcom already tried to do that in SF3 anyway, while trying to take every past character out, and the game bombed.
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narshkajke Mar 13, 2016 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Metallinatus:
Originally posted by narshkajke:
but he already lose the SnH, Gouken sealed it because it's too dangerous then Akuma getting pissed because he lost a worthy opponent (ssfiv).
But he appears to have unsealed again in SFV plot too. And can he really just "lose" his dark hadou? I get that Necalli devours it or something, but do that really just leaves him with nothing? I really wanted Ryu to master it instead of just run away from it.... and lose it.
And Alex a best main char? Hell no! Capcom already tried to do that in SF3 anyway, while trying to take every past character out, and the game bombed.
it's sf lore, anything can happen:)) it's sealed by the power of nothing, maybe bipson open his seal? necalli broke it down? anything can happen.
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drawknives Mar 13, 2016 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Originally posted by drawknives:
*virtual bitchslap*

We're talking about the lore here and not ingame tiers.

Other than that, Ryu is Top 3 in SFV together with Chun and Cammy.

I thought we were taking about SF5 damage levels until you pulled some weird list out of nowhere about Ryus bad matchups. It might have been USF4 which isn't all that relevant. :steamhappy:

Anyway, allow me to tell myself to STFU!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMbc4bPOjgI
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Cipher Esteria Mar 13, 2016 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by drawknives:

That wasn't Ryus bad Mu's that was the list of characters he lost to in the canon.

Like always,you have no clue about anything.
#35
Atwa Mar 13, 2016 @ 11:52am 
>muh ryu matchups

You can't apply pro matchups on 90% of the people that play at a very casual level, that is where Ryu is king and always will be one of the best.
#36
Colonel Mar 13, 2016 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Justin:
KEN IS UNSAFE

I suspect going for a drink with Ken would be unsafe these days especially if your male
#37
Agidyne Mar 13, 2016 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Ryu lost to:
-Abel
-Dudley
-Juni
-4x against Ken
-2x Sagat
-Akuma
-Gouken
-Oro
-Makoto
-Sakura
-Bison
-Guy
-Cody

Yes he is definitly strong......
Oh And Bison took Akuma down without even trying, Akuma is not even close to be as strong as people belive.

When was this?
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Prismatic Lollipop Mar 13, 2016 @ 12:21pm 
if you really learn how to use this new ryu as efficient as possible, you wont be better than any other very good player of any other character.

the usual ryu opponents are the easiest to beat in this game, along with ken and cammy.
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Cipher Esteria Mar 13, 2016 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Ryu lost to:
-Abel(SFIV)
-Dudley(SF3)
-Juni(Alpha3)
-4x against Ken(Alpha2,SF2,SFIV,SF3)
-2x Sagat(SF1,SFIV)
-Akuma(Alpha2)
-Gouken(SFIV)
-Oro(SF3)
-Makoto(SF3)
-Sakura(SFIV)
-Bison(Alpha2)
-Guy(SFIV)
-Cody(SFIV)

Originally posted by Agidyne:
When was this?
Happy?
One Doll is enough to take Ryu down. Feels so good.
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narshkajke Mar 13, 2016 @ 12:34pm 
Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Ryu lost to:
-Abel(SFIV)
-Dudley(SF3)
-Juni(Alpha3)
-4x against Ken(Alpha2,SF2,SFIV,SF3)
-2x Sagat(SF1,SFIV)
-Akuma(Alpha2)
-Gouken(SFIV)
-Oro(SF3)
-Makoto(SF3)
-Sakura(SFIV)
-Bison(Alpha2)
-Guy(SFIV)
-Cody(SFIV)

Originally posted by Agidyne:
When was this?
Happy?
One Doll is enough to take Ryu down. Feels so good.
isn't it fairer if you also post Ryu's winning feats? So we can see the perspective here? I'm asking you because you seems like the right person to ask:)
#41
Prismatic Lollipop Mar 13, 2016 @ 12:41pm 
you cant argue with Cipher about Ryu.
he hates ryu, and he will always give you that list no one cares about, because its not even really official, just part of comics.

note here, that ryu is supressing his powers and his fighting abilities to keep the satsui no hado in check.
thats why he loses when he does, he often doesnt fight to win, but to find a way to get rid of the dark hado.
cipher wont understand that, hes too obsessed with the meaningless dolls.
#42
Cipher Esteria Mar 13, 2016 @ 1:02pm 
Ryu doesn't surpress anything.
He would kill just to win a match, look what he did to Sagat in SF1.
He let himself consume from the SnH,because he wants to win at all costs, he was under the controll of the SnH until Juni knocked him out in Alpha3.
He doesn't care about other people, Ken is the only one who even gives a f*** about Ryu by now,even Bison ignores him.

Ryu would even kill dozens of people just to stop his Hado from coming out, see his Vanilla SFIV ending,where he destroys the S.I.N generator and kills everyone who is connected with it.
For the luck of these persons is this one of the non-canon endings of Vanilla.
It still proves that he is ready to kill, just to make his Hado stop.

Like I said, all my informations come from one of Capcoms Storywriter, the Udon Comics are non-canon anyway, they provide no usefull informations.

Funfact,even a brainwashed Doll that acts like a robot has more personality than Ryu.
#43
narshkajke Mar 13, 2016 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Ryu doesn't surpress anything.
He would kill just to win a match, look what he did to Sagat in SF1.
He let himself consume from the SnH,because he wants to win at all costs, he was under the controll of the SnH until Juni knocked him out in Alpha3.
He doesn't care about other people, Ken is the only one who even gives a f*** about Ryu by now,even Bison ignores him.


Originally posted by Cipher | CWO:
Ryu would even kill dozens of people just to stop his Hado from coming out, see his Vanilla SFIV ending,where he destroys the S.I.N generator and kills everyone who is connected with it.
For the luck of these persons is this one of the non-canon endings of Vanilla.
It still proves that he is ready to kill, just to make his Hado stop.

There's a contradiction in your post my friend, why would a person who doesn't suppress anything want to kill a dozens just to supress something? :)

and the fact that Ryu's Chi as Evil Ryu is so powerful that a weapon of mass destruction based on fighters chi want to use his power do do some nuclear stuff attest to why I think Ryu is one of the top tier in SF canon, again not God Tier, just top tier.
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Cipher Esteria Mar 13, 2016 @ 1:22pm 
Ryus Chi is not strong by nature, since it's all the SnH and not his own energy, he is just a joke.

Chun-Li trained hard to be on her current level.She's far above Ryu without a question.
Ryu will lose his SnH and has no longer his lucky boost, he stays weak.
Not to mentoi that E.Ryu can't be that powerfull, if Guy needs 10 seconds to beat him.

You might know,that the SnH is a primitive engery, based on the fighters will to win and to murder for it. Ryu can't controll it, he can't surpress it, he has to stop fighting in order to make it stop. But since he can't stop fighting, he's a ticking timebomb.
However his SnH basicly shuts the f*** up, if Ryu kills or attempt to kills someone during a battle.
It just ends with him beeing consumed by it anyway.
As for SFV, Necalli will suck Ryus Hado out and make him worthles and harmless. His Chi can't compete with others.

And just to clear things up here is a pretty accurate lore list from the upper midtiers to the tops:
SSS: Ingrid

SS: Gill,Akuma,M.Bison,Oro,Oni,Gen,the Dolls(all 12)

S: Rolento,Cody,Guy,Cammy, Rose,Decapre, Dhalsim, Charlie Nash, Gouken,Chun-Li

A: Dudley,Ken,Abel,Seth,Sodom,E.Ryu,single Doll,Juri

B: Ryu,Urien,Alex,Hugo(with Poison),C.Viper(with Gadgets),Sagat,DeeJay,Fei Long,Maki
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