Story mode will be around 1-2 hours long

[Tripas]

Boy, am I glad they skimped on all that single-player content like freaking Arcade to give us a story mode that's this substancial. Really Capcom, don't spoil us with all this wealth of content, we might start feeling bad over having payed $60 for the privelege of playing your game.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/feb/18/street-fighter-5s-story-expansion-will-be-around-1-2-hours-long-new-video-where-ono-discusses-upcoming-sf5-content-ayano/

[Stationary Traveller]

1-2h PER CHARACTER I hope? Cause otherwise it would mean they're just adding cutscenes.

[Movez]

The cutscenes without the gameplay will be that long mate. With gameplay it will be around 5 hours atleast. Like he mkx story mode length

[Leandro Eidi]

引用自 Tripas：

Yes, extremely transparent. That why they never mentioned the lack of something as basic as some sort of Arcade mode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZyqL2q0eg8
Here's the video Capcom made showing all the modes that would be released at launch. As you can see, they made it clear that it wouldn't have an arcade mode.

[Tripas]

引用自 移動 Movez：

The cutscenes without the gameplay will be that long mate. With gameplay it will be around 5 hours atleast. Like he mkx story mode length

"Story mode will take you about 1-2 hours" means the whole thing, not just the cutscenes.

引用自 Leandro Eidi：

引用自 Tripas：

Yes, extremely transparent. That why they never mentioned the lack of something as basic as some sort of Arcade mode?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZyqL2q0eg8
Here's the video Capcom made showing all the modes that would be released at launch. As you can see, they made it clear that it wouldn't have an arcade mode.

Oh you're right, that's why they also made it so perfectly clear that there won't be an options mode. I mean, it's not on the video so clearly its unmentioned abscence is a clear declaration that it's not in the game.

Do you even know what "made it clear" means or are you just bashing your keyboard hoping that the words that come out will make sense?

[Lames]

guys valve never made it clear that TF2 doesn't have a campaign. I feel ripped off.

[oyuncu adam]

2 hours of cinematic story is enough for a fighting game.

[Tripas]

引用自 Lames：

guys valve never made it clear that TF2 doesn't have a campaign. I feel ripped off.

Yeah, I mean after TF Classic and all other games of the same genre having a campaign and everything, everyone was just expecting TF2 to have one too. It would justify that $60 price tag that it shipped with too, right?

Also, TF2 DOES have a single-player mode where you can play a normal map with every player being replaced with a bot. So it's already got a better single-player than SFV does.

[Lames]

引用自 Tripas：

引用自 Lames：

guys valve never made it clear that TF2 doesn't have a campaign. I feel ripped off.

Yeah, I mean after TF Classic and all other games of the same genre having a campaign and everything, everyone was just expecting TF2 to have one too. It would justify that $60 price tag that it shipped with too, right?

Also, TF2 DOES have a single-player mode where you can play a normal map with every player being replaced with a bot. So it's already got a better single-player than SFV does.

Whoa, that's a nice magic trick, at first the goalpost was over there, then you moved it all the way over here. Capcom has made is extremely clear there's no arcade mode. Nobody was talking about justifying the price tag. But if you insist, this game was made for fighting game fans, not people who play arcade mode once and shelve the game forever. What justifies the $60 price tag is crossplay, which to my knowledge has only been a success previously with rocket league, excellent netcode, a fantastic ranking system, and extremely solid mechanics. Also you ever hit up training mode? Cause that last part makes me feel like you haven't even played the game.

[Umbra]

I for one am happy about this story mode thing.

[Tripas]

引用自 Lames：

引用自 Tripas：

Yeah, I mean after TF Classic and all other games of the same genre having a campaign and everything, everyone was just expecting TF2 to have one too. It would justify that $60 price tag that it shipped with too, right?

Also, TF2 DOES have a single-player mode where you can play a normal map with every player being replaced with a bot. So it's already got a better single-player than SFV does.

Whoa, that's a nice magic trick, at first the goalpost was over there, then you moved it all the way over here. Capcom has made is extremely clear there's no arcade mode. Nobody was talking about justifying the price tag. But if you insist, this game was made for fighting game fans, not people who play arcade mode once and shelve the game forever. What justifies the $60 price tag is crossplay, which to my knowledge has only been a success previously with rocket league, excellent netcode, a fantastic ranking system, and extremely solid mechanics. Also you ever hit up training mode? Cause that last part makes me feel like you haven't even played the game.

What goalpost? You're the one who started comparing it to a far superior game when it comes to provinding a service in the form of a multiplayer game WHILE also providing some of the best single-player games on the platform (let's not forget that TF2 came bundled with HL2 + 2 episodes + Portal for half the price of SFV). Because even the game focused on playing as a TEAM made a better job at having a single-player game than the one-on-one fighter that has had one-on-one fights against the CPU ever since the genre was born.

Also, you point me out how Capcom made it "extremely clear" that there wasn't going to be an Arcade mode. Was that the same way they made it "extremely clear" that there's no local versus in the game too? Because that wasn't mentioned in the trailer either, so I suppose that's also missing from the main game. I mean, most people would take it as read since it's been a staple of fighting games since.... ever so there should be no need to mention that the game has it but if "we didn't mention it so that means it's not in there" is the new philosophy now... I guess SFV just doesn't have local versus anymore. Man, Capcom is REALLY cutting corners now, aren't they? But what can you do, if it's not aimed at the online component of the game, then it's not really useful to anybody, is it?

And crossplay is what justifies the price tag? That's a really nice joke, very funny. And then you mention Rocket League, another crossplay game focused on online multiplayer that costs about 1/3 of what they're asking for SFV. Oh yeah, clearly that cross-play feature is MAD EXPENSIVE if you can sell a game for $20 or less with that feature. My God, don't you go crazy for us there Capcom, you're going to go bankrupt with all those expenses you're going into for our sake.

[Stationary Traveller]

引用自 移動 Movez：

The cutscenes without the gameplay will be that long mate. With gameplay it will be around 5 hours atleast. Like he mkx story mode length

I still find that quite poor. BB's story mode is usually 15 to 30 hours... Guess you can't say much about SF characters' stories.

[Lames]

引用自 Tripas：

引用自 Lames：

Whoa, that's a nice magic trick, at first the goalpost was over there, then you moved it all the way over here. Capcom has made is extremely clear there's no arcade mode. Nobody was talking about justifying the price tag. But if you insist, this game was made for fighting game fans, not people who play arcade mode once and shelve the game forever. What justifies the $60 price tag is crossplay, which to my knowledge has only been a success previously with rocket league, excellent netcode, a fantastic ranking system, and extremely solid mechanics. Also you ever hit up training mode? Cause that last part makes me feel like you haven't even played the game.

What goalpost? You're the one who started comparing it to a far superior game when it comes to provinding a service in the form of a multiplayer game WHILE also providing some of the best single-player games on the platform (let's not forget that TF2 came bundled with HL2 + 2 episodes + Portal for half the price of SFV). Because even the game focused on playing as a TEAM made a better job at having a single-player game than the one-on-one fighter that has had one-on-one fights against the CPU ever since the genre was born.

Also, you point me out how Capcom made it "extremely clear" that there wasn't going to be an Arcade mode. Was that the same way they made it "extremely clear" that there's no local versus in the game too? Because that wasn't mentioned in the trailer either, so I suppose that's also missing from the main game. I mean, most people would take it as read since it's been a staple of fighting games since.... ever so there should be no need to mention that the game has it but if "we didn't mention it so that means it's not in there" is the new philosophy now... I guess SFV just doesn't have local versus anymore. Man, Capcom is REALLY cutting corners now, aren't they? But what can you do, if it's not aimed at the online component of the game, then it's not really useful to anybody, is it?

And crossplay is what justifies the price tag? That's a really nice joke, very funny. And then you mention Rocket League, another crossplay game focused on online multiplayer that costs about 1/3 of what they're asking for SFV. Oh yeah, clearly that cross-play feature is MAD EXPENSIVE if you can sell a game for $20 or less with that feature. My God, don't you go crazy for us there Capcom, you're going to go bankrupt with all those expenses you're going into for our sake.

Another successful magic trick of putting words into my mouth. I just don't know how they got there. I compared a multiplayer focused game to a multiplayer focused game, I never mentioned the price, you did. The comparison wasn't meant to show the content of a game that has been out for around 10 years that makes its revenue with microtransactions and SF5, it was between multiplayer games where people don't care about the single player content. And if all the things TF2 does well is having bot matches, the robust training mode in SF5 trumps it easily. Not to say it's a bad thing that TF2 only has bot matches, because that's not the game's focus.

There is local vs. Have you seriously just not played the game?

I never said the crossplay was the only reason to justify the price. I mentioned one other thing. It's not as important, but you know, the mechanics.

[Asbepis]

Guys i think we can all accept that SFV has good gameplay and netcode ect and i love the ♥♥♥♥ out of it, but come one, 60 dollars? for this. It doesn't matter if you get HUNDREDS OF HOURS out of it that comes from how deep fighting games are, there isn't enough in most fighting games to justify such a high price let alone SFV with all the missing (temporarely) content, they just didn't make enough to fit the price tag. The game should have been 30-50 bucks. And no, the future content does not make up for the price, it does not take THAT MUCH MONEY to make a character for a fighting game let alone one funded by capcom and sony. I think the only reason it got such a high price tag was becuase its a AAA game and they ALWAYS have $60 prices now.

[Federov]

This is riddiculs discussion. It´s going to be worth 60$ for some people and not for some people. It´s your choice to buy it or not, no one is forcing you. For me it´s going to be worth it since i can easly play atleast 200hours in just online ranked and training mode without capcom releasing any more content. 60$ / 200 . 200 is just an example, and a low one at that.
If you dont enjoy what the game is offering for the price, DO NOT buy it then...

EDIT: For me it´s an MP only game almost all other stuff is bonus. And I think the demographic this game is for agrees.

[Asbepis]

引用自 Federov：

This is riddiculs discussion. It´s going to be worth 60$ for some people and not for some people. It´s your choice to buy it or not, no one is forcing you. For me it´s going to be worth it since i can easly play atleast 200hours in just online ranked and training mode without capcom releasing any more content. 60$ / 200 . 200 is just an example, and a low one at that.
If you dont enjoy what the game is offering for the price, DO NOT buy it then...

EDIT: For me it´s an MP only game almost all other stuff is bonus. And I think the demographic this game is for agrees.

yeah but you have to remember that we vote for our wallets, and sure while most of us will get a good amount of hours out of the game' MP we still payed $60 when i doubt they had to spend any where near enough producing it to validate the price, by buying this for such a high price we are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the rest of the industry