Laura alt costume is too OP

[nhatminh]

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[Ted FF]

Originally posted by Hyrenapth:

I think her outfit is okay. In Brazil such outfit is kinda part of the culture. Uncommon but acceptable. It is not something shocking here if she were in some specific funk parties.

Originally posted by ghml:

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

90% of SF players are men, whether you accept it or not.

What about homosexual men? What about mature men who don't get distract by graphical cartoonish bodies? What about men who are used to see girls like that in a hot weather country?

If you can't play a game because a fictional character costume, you should look for a psychiatrist, as you can't go to a beach, you can't go to a club, you can't go to a public place in summer, you can't go to a gym.

I am Brazilian and I live in Brazil like Laura. Those kind of female costumes are really common here and nobody complains or get distracted about it.

This is how girls go to gym here, for example:
http://s.glbimg.com/et/bb/f/original/2013/01/23/geral_1.jpg

This is how girls go to the beach here:
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Sexy+Helen+Ganzarolli+Enjoys+Day+Beau+Ipanema+Qj9vNNe8lSrl.jpg

Eu nunca vi uma personagem fazer tanta polêmica sobre o Brasil quanto a Laura.

Primeiro os ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ficaram discutindo sobre as cores da nossa pele e nossos nomes (se "Laura" é um nome comum no Brasil, além de alguns estranharem o nome Matsuda sendo que nossos sobrenomes vêm de muitas partes diferentes do mundo).

Agora a discussão é sobre as roupas.

É como se o Brasil fosse um outro planeta ou um bicho de sete cabeças.

Aahahahahahahahaha

[ghml]

Originally posted by Ted FF:

Eu nunca vi uma personagem fazer tanta polêmica sobre o Brasil quanto a Laura.

Primeiro os ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ficaram discutindo sobre as cores da nossa pele e nossos nomes (se "Laura" é um nome comum no Brasil, além de alguns estranharem o nome Matsuda sendo que nossos sobrenomes vêm de muitas as partes diferentes do mundo).

Agora a discussão é sobre as roupas.

É como se o Brasil fosse um outro planeta ou um bicho de sete cabeças.

Aahahahahahahahaha

Hahahahha

É isso mesmo! A polêmica é maior no exterior que aqui! Se eles viajarem para o Brasil em fevereiro, no carnaval, acho que terão um ataque do coração ao ver os trajes do pessoal (mulheres e homens).

(English)
That's right! The controversy is greater abroad than here! If those guys have the opportunity to travel to Brazil in February, during the carnival, I think it will have a heart attack after seeing the clothes (-or lack of clothes-) people use (both women and men).

[92nami]

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Originally posted by Re-L Mayer:

How exactly does a '' fighter '' dress like?
None of the characters in the game dress like you would if you willingly went into a combat situation.
In fact. In that sense, she dresses more like a '' fighter '' than any of the other characters.
Women using their sexuality in combat is actually something that did happen historically. Female ninjas is a great example.
There's lots of Viking sagas and actual documentations of women straight up ripping their shirts off in a combat situations. Women using their sexuality as a distraction actually works.
It's a genuine tactic.
So technically. Laura is dressing more appropriately for a combat situation than any of the other characters ( except maybe Cammy ). Considering that none of the characters wear any armor.

Obviously. People went into war in armor. But women didn't fight in wars.
Hence, when women did get into fights, it was mainly unarmored fights. In which case, exposing as much as skin as possible was a valid tactic.
I don't see why a martial arts fight would be any different in that sense than a sword fight.
Heck, female ninjas even had customized clothing for the purpose of quick exposure to skin.

Have you seen Deadwood? The last episode I think it is, is a good example of a woman using her sexuality as a distraction.
Sure, she fails at the killing part. But she didn't get caught, because the guy didn't have time to spot her face before he was shot, so at least it succeded in that sense also.

You know that not all fights involve armor and bladed weapons, right? Laura's standard dress is at least on the lower body a martial arts outfit. Only the upper part is more blatantly sexy, but I can accept it as a sign of her Brazilianhood and as a relatively mild way of distracting your opponent while you pummel him. In the other outfit on the other hand her body is completely exposed except her arms, she looks like she just woke up from a hot night and put on the first jacket she found in her wardrobe. Really not the best thing to fight people with your bare hands.

I don't think Rashids or Alex's Story Alts are the best battle outfits either, Alex fights in his PJs for hecks sake

[ZeN~Dr3dD]

Originally posted by ┻━┻ ︵ ¯\ (ツ)/¯ ︵:

mum pllzzzz go away, sfv is no game for you plz mum...ye i know food is ready but im still arguing with people over the internet YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THE THINGS IM GOING THROUGH WAAHH

Bahah good one dude

[Stationary Traveller]

Originally posted by Flesh†Blood:

Sounds to me like this isn't about sillines at all and just about you having a hang up at one female character and her revealing clothes. Again, what did you expect? Did you ever play SFIV? Did you see the designs? Laura's outfit is not out of character and fits her very well actually.

Ah, so you are just going to accuse your detractors of being horny "teens" while you obviously have the "mature" and "adult" opinion, that's laughable at best.

No, I'm pissed off because I wanted my main to have a bada.ss costume and they screwed it up by leaving her naked on 80% of the body. I have the choice between an underbewb afternoon shopper and a girl who just came out from the shower and put the first thing she found on her before opening the door to the postie. I expect next one to just have sunglasses and socks.

Originally posted by ghml:

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

90% of SF players are men, whether you accept it or not.

What about homosexual men? What about mature men who don't get distract by graphical cartoonish bodies? What about men who are used to see girls like that in a hot weather country?

If you can't play a game because a fictional character costume, you should look for a psychiatrist, as you can't go to a beach, you can't go to a club, you can't go to a public place in summer, you can't go to a gym.

I am Brazilian and I live in Brazil like Laura. Those kind of female costumes are really common here and nobody complains or get distracted about it.

This is how girls go to gym here, for example:
http://s.glbimg.com/et/bb/f/original/2013/01/23/geral_1.jpg

This is how girls go to the beach here:
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Sexy+Helen+Ganzarolli+Enjoys+Day+Beau+Ipanema+Qj9vNNe8lSrl.jpg

And do people at the beach also wear a heavy jacket and shoes?

P.S. also read better, I'm not the one here who opens thread saying "I'm distracted by Mika's a.ss/Chun's bewbs/Cammy's legs" or "who's the hottest character in SFV".

[CaballeroRojo]

Umm... i cant believe that actually someone gets distracted by some virtual ass. Maybe i am too old, or used to see real ones (southamerica you know). Even if i dont like her clothes they are kinda common around southamerica beachs, more in brazil.

[Derceto]

Laura's alt costume is awesome and reflective of Brazilian dressing style. +1 to Capcom.

[ghml]

Originally posted by Derceto:

Laura's alt costume is awesome and reflective of Brazilian dressing style. +1 to Capcom.

This ^.

I live here and can confirm that.

[Nichole24]

Originally posted by Metallinatus:

Originally posted by Moonmadness:

Always the same hypocritical comparisons. Let's close our eyes and act like a man's chest is a sexual part like women's breasts.

Women digs men's chests.... and even nipples. And they get full shots of them while our ladies in the game cover them.
Street Fighter sexualizes men much more than women.... whether you accept it or not.

You know, I generally don't care much about sexualization of women in games, I think its mostly fine and doesn't really matter, especially in series like this where everyone is exaggerated... but seriously?

No, men are not much more sexualized than women in this game, not even remotely. Men are just as exaggerated as women in this game, but that doesn't mean that they were designed that way for the main reason of looking sexy to straight women and gay men. Cammy is weird a full on heavy coat in her story costume, but still isn't wearing any pants, much like how Sakura's karate gi was missing pants for some reason. Its one thing to wear an outfit that doesn't have pants and its another to remove the pants from one that does for no reason aside panty shots.

Cammy and Chun-Li looked fine when they first released but ended up getting face lifts because people complained they didn't look young and pretty enough. They both have modeled nipple bumps and Cammy even has a modeled clitoris. Zangief is the only male showing off his bulge and even then it doesn't show the shape of what's underneath it.

Like enjoying the things are fine, I'm not gonna complain or raise a fuss about how things need to change, outside of maybe more pants because some of that stuff just looks silly, but saying that men are much more sexualized is crazy.

[CaballeroRojo]

Everyone talks about sexism, feminism and stuff. Womans should ALSO have the freedom to look or dress sexy if they want without being called ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Stationary Traveller]

Originally posted by CaballeroRojo:

Everyone talks about sexism and stuff. Womans should ALSO have the freedom to look or dress sexy if they want without being called ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Probably... except this is a game made for men by men.

[Nyx]

Originally posted by Nichole24:

Originally posted by Metallinatus:

Women digs men's chests.... and even nipples. And they get full shots of them while our ladies in the game cover them.
Street Fighter sexualizes men much more than women.... whether you accept it or not.

You know, I generally don't care much about sexualization of women in games, I think its mostly fine and doesn't really matter, especially in series like this where everyone is exaggerated... but seriously?

No, men are not much more sexualized than women in this game, not even remotely. Men are just as exaggerated as women in this game, but that doesn't mean that they were designed that way for the main reason of looking sexy to straight women and gay men. Cammy is weird a full on heavy coat in her story costume, but still isn't wearing any pants, much like how Sakura's karate gi was missing pants for some reason. Its one thing to wear an outfit that doesn't have pants and its another to remove the pants from one that does for no reason aside panty shots.

Cammy and Chun-Li looked fine when they first released but ended up getting face lifts because people complained they didn't look young and pretty enough. They both have modeled nipple bumps and Cammy even has a modeled clitoris. Zangief is the only male showing off his bulge and even then it doesn't show the shape of what's underneath it.

Like enjoying the things are fine, I'm not gonna complain or raise a fuss about how things need to change, outside of maybe more pants because some of that stuff just looks silly, but saying that men are much more sexualized is crazy.

I did not talk about SFV specifically, and the matter of the fact is, there is absolutely no character in the franchise more "sexualized" than Gill and Urien, NO OTHER COMES EVEN CLOSE.
And yes, they were designed the way they were for pure sexualization, there is no denying that....

[Nichole24]

Why did you put "sexualized" in quotes when you were the one who originally talk about men being sexualized in the post I quoted?

And I would argue they weren't sexualized. It kind of implies they did it on purpose to appeal to someone, but not once have I seen anyone derail perfectly fine threads by post crotch shots of them or lewd fan art or anyone just fangasm over them at all. You can't truly argue that they were sexualized when they didn't appeal to anyone. They never zoomed in on them in any suggestive way. You could argue perhaps that their design in potentially sexual, but ultimately it was pandered to no one.

And I certainly don't see all 3 of Urien's costumes in this game refusing to put any kind of pants on them or hhim having jiggle physic on his package or any suggestive outlines.

That's the point I was getting at, everyone is exaggerated in Street Fighter, but being exaggerated or perfect does not translate to being sexual.

[XucroseBee]

When does that alt for laura come out?

[Nyx]

Originally posted by Nichole24:

Why did you put "sexualized" in quotes when you were the one who originally talk about men being sexualized in the post I quoted?

And I would argue they weren't sexualized. It kind of implies they did it on purpose to appeal to someone, but not once have I seen anyone derail perfectly fine threads by post crotch shots of them or lewd fan art or anyone just fangasm over them at all. You can't truly argue that they were sexualized when they didn't appeal to anyone. They never zoomed in on them in any suggestive way. You could argue perhaps that their design in potentially sexual, but ultimately it was pandered to no one.

And I certainly don't see all 3 of Urien's costumes in this game refusing to put any kind of pants on them or hhim having jiggle physic on his package or any suggestive outlines.

That's the point I was getting at, everyone is exaggerated in Street Fighter, but being exaggerated or perfect does not translate to being sexual.

That's not how it works, if I put someone naked in a game and no one cares about it for whatever reason, it doesn't mean it was not sexualized. And the "this game is made by man to man", "whatever % of the player base is male" kinda helps, a lot, on making their design not pander to "no one".... but it doesn't make any less sexualized. It is a big fallacy to say that sexualization depends on the consumer base or on their reaction to it, and not on.... it.
And a man with pants don't usually have visible "jiggle physics" like women, even with bra, still usually do.
Now the reason why I quoted sexualization is because I honestly find that whole talk about "sexualization" of any gender in games simply pain stupid, because that is what it is. But letting people know that what they do to women in this franchise is not "worse" than what they do to men seemed like a good idea anyway....