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SaltyOneOne possui Street Fighter V

25/set./2016 às 19:59

Is there anyway to beat wakeup DP?

It seems wakeup DP beats everything short of block/bate. Is there anyway to stay on the offense against ken/ryu's wake up DP? Or is block the only way?

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ArchMorlock possui Street Fighter V

26/set./2016 às 1:33

IMO, any invincible reversal wake-up just forces a mind game between the two players: the trade-off between breaking non-true blockstings or knock down pressure vs getting a full CC combo for a huge chunk of life. Respect the fact that people can reversal you, but bait it if they use it often. If you don't show them that you can take 40% of their life or so off a miscalculation, there's no reason for them not to keep spamming it. Watch their habits in the first few knock downs. It's a high risk, moderate reward move type.

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unclassified possui Street Fighter V

(Banido(a)) 26/set./2016 às 1:39

Theory fighting time

shouldnt cammys ex dp beat them all since it has longer invincible frames?

#17

Hei Gui

26/set./2016 às 3:03

Escrito originalmente por unclassified:
Theory fighting time

shouldnt cammys ex dp beat them all since it has longer invincible frames?

Why ask that if you can just tell us the answer in training mode?

#18

unclassified possui Street Fighter V

(Banido(a)) 26/set./2016 às 3:27

Escrito originalmente por Dumpster Combo:
Escrito originalmente por unclassified:
Theory fighting time

shouldnt cammys ex dp beat them all since it has longer invincible frames?

Why ask that if you can just tell us the answer in training mode?

Because sfv is at least to my knowledge not optimized for smartphones :p

So i cant test it out right now.

#19

SaltyOneOne possui Street Fighter V

26/set./2016 às 8:29

Is there any safe ways to bait a wake up DP as bison?

#20

Murloc

26/set./2016 às 8:39

Escrito originalmente por Paradox:
Is there any safe ways to bait a wake up DP as bison?

Walk forward until touching, block.

#21

LockM

26/set./2016 às 10:51

Escrito originalmente por Paradox:
Corner crossup can beat DP, I just tried it on training.

A move consists of 3 parts:
-Startup
-Active
-Recovery

Ryu his Medium and EX dp have invincible startup frames, then it goes over in active frames from which point hitboxes play a role. Your jump over "beat" the dp because it doesn't have a hitbox in the back and your crossup jump attack does have a hitbox slightly in the back for the crossup to work. The person doing the dp will get air reset after you do the crossup because they are airborne.

You might have dealt a bit of damage but now you have to take ANOTHER chance again as they might be able to do ANOTHER dp.

The crossup jump is ok as a round ender wher eyou only need a bit of damage. Otherwise you should simply bait it out and have your Crush Counter combo ready. You should be able to take atleast 1//3rd of their life depending on your resources.

#22

「AMOEBA」

26/set./2016 às 11:01

Stop committing so much, you should do what you normally do and try to see what it takes for that person to wakeup dp, or dp in general. Then pretend you're going to do it again, but instead block, they'll dp and you can get a counter. That'll condition them to stop doing it

Última edição por 「AMOEBA」; 26/set./2016 às 12:23

#23

Ryltair

26/set./2016 às 12:09

Block or shimmy.

#24

Vita, Mortis, Careo possui Street Fighter V

26/set./2016 às 12:43

Block and punish.

#25

drawknives possui Street Fighter V

26/set./2016 às 13:38

As many have already stated, don't attack these characters on wakeup all the time if you're confident that your read of a so-called 'wake up DP' is coming. Mix up your play.

Maybe another way of thinking about this is asking you how you dealt with Bisons, Akumas and Dhalsims in SF4 who teleported away on wakeup? What was your strategy then?

It's all about learning each matchup seperately. After all, you wouldn't want to be standing next to Gief or T-Hawk on their wakeups in SF4, SSF2T or any other self-respecting Street Fighter game would you?! You're gonna get dunked.

Última edição por drawknives; 26/set./2016 às 13:41

#26

Ka7al

26/set./2016 às 13:55

Ryu, Ken, Cammy, Necalli, are the only characters in the game with a meterless invincible reversal, it means they can DP without any meter and they have about 6-8 frames of invincibility, the only way to beat a wake up invincible DP, is to DP at the wake up of your opponent, which is stupid and no one should do it.

Ryu and Ken's MP Shoryuken is the only invincible option, Necalli's HP DP is the only invincible one for him, and all of cammy's DP are invincible.

#27

[BOL]K1

26/set./2016 às 15:40

Cover, theres no cheap ko

#28

Necropants possui Street Fighter V

26/set./2016 às 22:38

Roll back is the nessesary evil, the alternative is far far worse, and if your internet (and your oponents just isn't total trash.) its not really a concern.

#29