Would a Fight Stick make SFV easier?

[BOWSER]

I mainly use a regular PS4 controller. I figured using a Fight Stick would make it easier for me because I can use my entire left hand to maneuver instead of just my thumb and all attack buttons are laid out flat in front of my other hand.

The other problem is that I can't assign V-Skill, V-Trigger, and V-Shift on a controller at the same time without sacrificing another button. Am I correct in assuming a Fight Stick would make SFV easier?

[Kyso4ek]

Originally posted by nohands:

I play with both hitbox and stick, and used pad in the past also I think to have good execution.
I switched to stick from pad cause the arrows were "grating" my thumb.
From a merely competitive aspect the worst is the Fightstick. simply because the lever is the slowest. However I feel like it's the easiest to learn from 0.
Pad needs a lot of time but the fact you have both a lever and directionals is a plus, also you have overall more buttons than a fightstick, issue you need to master it, and find a way that is good for you to use it.
Hitbox is good as it is very accurate, but is very hard to use it, you have to learn shortcuts and some inputs are the opposite of practical compared to a lever.

why play stick if you have a hitbox?

[jaywolfenstien]

Originally posted by Kyso4ek:

why play stick if you have a hitbox?

I play pad, stick, and hit box. Depends on what mood I'm in. I used to play keyboard too a long, long, loooooong time ago.

[giangole]

Originally posted by Kyso4ek:

Originally posted by nohands:

I play with both hitbox and stick, and used pad in the past also I think to have good execution.
I switched to stick from pad cause the arrows were "grating" my thumb.
From a merely competitive aspect the worst is the Fightstick. simply because the lever is the slowest. However I feel like it's the easiest to learn from 0.
Pad needs a lot of time but the fact you have both a lever and directionals is a plus, also you have overall more buttons than a fightstick, issue you need to master it, and find a way that is good for you to use it.
Hitbox is good as it is very accurate, but is very hard to use it, you have to learn shortcuts and some inputs are the opposite of practical compared to a lever.

why play stick if you have a hitbox?

Mainly because I've been using the stick for years while picked the hitbox just recently, also the hitbox is just a harder input device, you have at least 4 ways to do a shoryuken, and you need to know when to use each at the right time or you gonna ♥♥♥♥ it up when you need it.

[Ride the Lightning]

It's completely personal preference. All controllers are represented by the top players. If there was an advantage with a specific controller it would show in tourney use. As for PAD, it was once thought of as impossible to compete on PAD. But as consoles made SF more available, and parent said Hell No to kids asking for a $200 controller, they proved that pad can be just as effective as stick.....3 of the 4 SFV CAPCOM CUP Champs used PAD. HITBOX to me seems like it has huge potential, but it is priced out of most players budget.

[Ride the Lightning]

Originally posted by ShadowSplit:

Originally posted by Shizuma:

If you use a gamepad stay away from analogs and use the d-pad.

I can't do Cannon Spike or Cannon Strike with Cammy if I use d-pad.

Maybe try a six button controller. I love the Hori Fighting Commander, it does not have an analog. However the Mad Catz Street Fighter V FightPad PRO has DPAD and analog. The Madcatz has pretty poor reviews on the DPad, but Snake Eyes does use it so. The six button layout really frees up your left hand for directional inputs only. Nuckledu uses DPAD and Analog at the same time when he plays Guile...which is plain nuts to me.

[jaywolfenstien]

Originally posted by voo:

Maybe try a six button controller. I love the Hori Fighting Commander, it does not have an analog. However the Mad Catz Street Fighter V FightPad PRO has DPAD and analog. The Madcatz has pretty poor reviews on the DPad, but Snake Eyes does use it so. The six button layout really frees up your left hand for directional inputs only. Nuckledu uses DPAD and Analog at the same time when he plays Guile...which is plain nuts to me.

A Madcatz 6 button fight pad literally died on me after 2 weeks of occasional use. Like, I might have gotten ten hours out of it. My HORI Fighting Commanders are still going strong after 2 years.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by BOWSER:

I mainly use a regular PS4 controller. I figured using a Fight Stick would make it easier for me because I can use my entire left hand to maneuver instead of just my thumb and all attack buttons are laid out flat in front of my other hand.

The other problem is that I can't assign V-Skill, V-Trigger, and V-Shift on a controller at the same time without sacrificing another button. Am I correct in assuming a Fight Stick would make SFV easier?

In short, no, no controller will make it "easier" or harder, depend on what you are most used and how you use it.

Anyway, I still prefer arcade controller for fighters like Chun Li, Guile, E-Honda and gamepad for characters like Ryu, Juri and Cammy.

"Easier" will depend on how much you practice.

[NikDanger]

I think we've seen enough competitive results now to suggest that you can make pad work with SFV if you try, so if you're comfortable with that I'd say keep on... But it doesn't sound like you actually find pad very comfortable to play SFV with... and you know, neither do I!

I will say that personally, as someone who used pad for 30 years, switching to Hitbox this year has been a revelation. It's taken a couple months to get used to, and I'd still say I'm a worse player in matches because it's not intuitive yet (Pad to Hitbox is an extreme transition; everything's different) but I can tell that with enough time to get used to it, I should play better. When I'm not forgetting where my buttons are, I find my execution and timing are a lot better, and when they're not, it's much easier for me to isolate the problem and retrain it than it ever was on pad. I definitely don't mash as much now... If nothing else, you'll lose any bad pad habits you've built up!

I have tried sticks in the past, and I would say if you're going to make the transition from pad, the Hitbox is the better alternative, unless you enjoy playing characters with a lot of 720 motions, which I do think are much easier to do on a stick. Everything else... I think Hitbox offers more potential, if you're willing to STICK with it!

[Shizuma]

I wouldn't recommand a hit box to a casual fighting gamer user like OP, even an arcade stick, this is too expensive just for few hours spent on the game.

[CRAZY DAVE [dennys grand slam]]

top players use all types so it comes down to preference. i like stick because its more wrist and arm movement and its easier to hit buttons compared to having to grip a controller and also hit buttons

[Kyso4ek]

Originally posted by Shizuma:

I wouldn't recommand a hit box to a casual fighting gamer user like OP, even an arcade stick, this is too expensive just for few hours spent on the game.

He s obviously having fun with the game and the genre. Hitbox would be a super good investment. Like automatic transmission in a car.

[Definively Not Alchman]

if you switching to another pad, i would recommend using a sega saturns pad.
they definitively have the best dpad ever made in history of gaming. of course they stop making those 20 years ago, but they do make modern licensed reproductions.

[Shizuma]

Originally posted by Kyso4ek:

Originally posted by Shizuma:

I wouldn't recommand a hit box to a casual fighting gamer user like OP, even an arcade stick, this is too expensive just for few hours spent on the game.

He s obviously having fun with the game and the genre. Hitbox would be a super good investment. Like automatic transmission in a car.

Maybe he is, but not on PC according to his playtime on fighting games.

[BOWSER]

Thanks for all the helpful comments. I wish I could mark them all as the answer as they are all very informative. It's true, I have not invested much time into SFV yet but I might be planning to shortly. So before I become accustomed to the gamepad, I wanted to know if other controllers are easier.

Thanks for mentioning gamepads with 6 buttons on the front. I completely forgot about those devices. A Hitbox is a new device to me. I will definitely do my own research with all the information here before I choose.

I played enough of the PS4 pad to recognize it's short comings and I'm frankly getting tired of them. lol Its just all the buttons on an arcade stick look much more accessible and it looks easier to input multiple buttons since all the buttons are on the exact same level right in front of the fingers. I own the game on PS4 as well btw so most of my game time is there, but nothing incredible. I'm a major noob there too.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by BOWSER:

Thanks for all the helpful comments. I wish I could mark them all as the answer as they are all very informative. It's true, I have not invested much time into SFV yet but I might be planning to shortly. So before I become accustomed to the gamepad, I wanted to know if other controllers are easier.

Thanks for mentioning gamepads with 6 buttons on the front. I completely forgot about those devices. A Hitbox is a new device to me. I will definitely do my own research with all the information here before I choose.

I played enough of the PS4 pad to recognize it's short comings and I'm frankly getting tired of them. lol Its just all the buttons on an arcade stick look much more accessible and it looks easier to input multiple buttons since all the buttons are on the exact same level right in front of the fingers. I own the game on PS4 as well btw so most of my game time is there, but nothing incredible. I'm a major noob there too.

2 guys with gamepads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JHlaMFbERc

2 guys using arcade controllers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqDnaiUE1Ys

1 using gamepad and 1 using arcade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd3L9pL1T7Q

Guys using arcade controller and gamepads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14V5TTmmJII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o85kGgOJmGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2ilM62N5_s

So, like I said:

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

In short, no, no controller will make it "easier" or harder, depend on what you are most used and how you use it.
...
"Easier" will depend on how much you practice.

It only depend on you and tbh that is not much difference form using a keyboard either, it will not make you better or worst, easier or harder, it just is different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSrRGTzUh5g

Also this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fro3pZTgYKk
It is only different.